Death of Matthias Shaw and Flynn Fairwind

He means loss of identity by that word.

This exploded, so the title alarmed me, Have they actually killed off Matthias Shaw and Flynn Fairwind? Or is it just someone upset that they’re gay/bi?

The only “real” people they resemble are also people who literally base their entire personality on “We’re gay”. Who are also awful representations of LGBT people. Again. You want representation regardless of how terrible it is. You’re the problem. Begone.

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They’re alive and well.

More than well. :sunglasses:

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Are those people real or not? Because as long as they live and breathe, they are valid. If you accept them or not that’s on your internalised homophobia and not on them.

Oh thats alright. Shaw seems like a dull chap, but I would definitely go out on the lash with Flynn, he sounds like a dude.

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Someone that assumed every character in game is by default straight. Now they are hurt and being homophobic, the usual.

People are entitled to say they don’t like changes in characters development in literature for whatever reason it is and they don’t owe you an explaination.

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oiiii!!! Us dull chaps make for great conversations over a glass of wine.

Sheesh!

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no, they’re not. If you dislike having gay people in media and don’t have a damn good reason to it’s pretty suspicious.

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They’re an unlikely couple, but I suppose it has its charms that way. I still don’t think most of the romances in Warcraft are particularly well written, but we’ve certainly seen worse than these two.

Your idea that anything “real” is valid is really vile and disgusting.

Guess what else is real? Chinese genocide camps. The Third Reich. Antifa. African Warbands who abduct children. You think these are all valid and should exist?

Begone.

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Those events are real and we do not negate their existence.

My opinion on them matters little since this isn’t the subject of this thread.

I’m not negating anything’s existence. I’m saying they are terrible. You’re outright okaying vile acts.

You’re the problem. Begone.

No wonder you hide your public profile so people can’t further call you out on your disgusting opinions.

a, CHANGE, in a character, can ONLY happen if the opposite was mentioned.

An example:
Writers: Shaw is straight
Writers: Shaw is now gay
That is a CHANGE in the story.

However since this did NOT happen, they changed nothing.
Just because some people automatically think everyone and everything is STRAIGHT, doesn’t make it a change in the story.

In the case of Shaw and Flynn, it’s not changing, but ADDING. Since we had no knowledge of their sexual pref, now we do.

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You failed.

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Another day, another political point forced down player’s throats. Why the heck did those two have to become attracted to each other??? Why? Well, we all know why. Because that signals “hey, we are a modern company, lookie, lookie”. It’s becoming pretty alarming.

Yes, it is - but not why you think.

Normally I won’t give a eff about this. But it’s 2020. The society was polarized. Hollywood is going woke, big gaming companies - too. Enforcing LGBT in computer games like WoW is suspicious in a sense they’re trying to make a political statement.

Guess what? We’ve read numerous books before. Harry Potter had a black character and Dumbledore became gay. It wasn’t an issue back then. It’s an issue now, because it’s politics.

What do you mean by they changed nothing.

Flynn Fairwind seemed like he was into Taelia, Matthias seemed like he was into Valeera. This was an out of the blue change hence was unexpected.

Yes you are. You are negating the validity of a gay man who acts like Flynn or Shaw. Because in your opinion they were “alphas and straight”.