I cannot believe what I am about to say - but after about 8 years of playing mainly Warlock I think I am about to either delete my character and re-roll or just delete freaking WoW. So let's lay out some core issues we have as Warlocks, THAT HAVE NEVER been so prevalent in how you feel when playing this class.
- Balance - so many might say - AFFLICTION is OP DPS SPEC. Yes that is far from true. Some spiking high numbers during BL does not make up for the dull gameplay, being outclassed by every other caster in the long run. Just check Uldir Mythic logs and you will see exactly 1 boss where warlock dps is prevalent. On anything else we are borderline bad or subpar.
- Utility - only reason we get invited to parties. Summon stone, healthstone, CR (who the !@#$ cares about that since nearly every class nowdays has a CR ). Get 2 warlocks for Ghuun for portals and no other reason. Feels like mage during TBC.
- PvP - I am not experienced PvPer - I have always enjoyed BGs and arenas from time to time - but as you can guess I wont step into any of these during current BFA condition. 0 movement, 0 survivability (literally getting 3-shotted through 3 defensive CDs with sacrificed voidwalker).
- 2 specs that are pretty much not viable in any form of content (if you are trying to push anything high-end-game you will not be playing destro or demo. Face it it just wont happen).
- Disappointing 8.1 changes. If these could be called changes. Like basic 5% dmg changes on 1 spell across each spec or so, useless new Azerites - with the only viable one being for the most unviable spec for us - Demo and nothing else. NOTHING ELSE.
- And than finally. The final nail in the coffin. We get scrapped off being Zandalari. The only thing I was looking forward to - farming my reputation, preparing my cash for instant switch of my 3 different warlocks to Zandalari. And now we get this complete bull%^-*. I dont really care about the whole lore situation - people have stated these Demoniac zandalari and what not. The problem is Blizzard officially state something during BLIZZCON and than just ret-con it like nothing happen? Really?
When are we going to get some love? Some changes? Something balance related? Maybe a cosmetic? Can I finally feel good about being 376 ilvl, rather than instantly getting denied from mythic+4 dungeon parties, because every other class at 376 will be more useful than me?
Warlocks arise - it's time to do something. Be vocal. Flood forums. Blizzard are crossing the border once again.
I want my class fantasy feeling back, my good spell kit or at least the new race to keep me to warlock (after 8 years of playing ONLY that).
Peace
Hello Brother
I made the same post, you can upvote me, i did same for you
I made the same post, you can upvote me, i did same for you
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We did raise our voices.
They cba .
Deal with it.
Reroll or unsub. better than to raise your voice.
P.S: I think they should delete the class. Like really.
They cba .
Deal with it.
Reroll or unsub. better than to raise your voice.
P.S: I think they should delete the class. Like really.
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warlock is awesome atm
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]07/11/2018 20:36Posted by Accelerowarlock is awesome atm
Accelero you trol my post, you troll this....what about shut the £%^@$£ up?
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07/11/2018 20:36Posted by Accelerowarlock is awesome atm
its people like these that blizzard listens to, they have 2 brain cells to make a connection and just post whatever stuff they have in their brain at the time
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im having fun with demolock atm.
i havent played pve serious in 2expa si i cant realy said its "bad", but ppl aint complain in my guild so.
you dont need to be the top dps, you can be the worst dps in the raid, but if you stil do the dps required to down the boss, its all good.
i havent played pve serious in 2expa si i cant realy said its "bad", but ppl aint complain in my guild so.
you dont need to be the top dps, you can be the worst dps in the raid, but if you stil do the dps required to down the boss, its all good.
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08/11/2018 05:50Posted by Aciddadicted07/11/2018 20:36Posted by Accelerowarlock is awesome atm
its people like these that blizzard listens to, they have 2 brain cells to make a connection and just post whatever stuff they have in their brain at the time
Seems same as your and OP post btw and whole crying lock forum.
Aff is one of best DPS spec. Try spriest, ele or something. Legion was just lock and mage fest. Blizz should nerf that 2 class to the ground.
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09/11/2018 19:22Posted by Dittmar08/11/2018 05:50Posted by Aciddadicted...
its people like these that blizzard listens to, they have 2 brain cells to make a connection and just post whatever stuff they have in their brain at the time
Seems same as your and OP post btw and whole crying lock forum.
Aff is one of best DPS spec. Try spriest, ele or something. Legion was just lock and mage fest. Blizz should nerf that 2 class to the ground.
another idiot who needs to get reminded we're mostly talking about gameplay, not numbers.
I played ele, mage friost and arcane in legion, and i spent some time on a trial sp i might boost for zandalari.
Warlock is by far the worst caster in terms of gameplay, every spec feels !@#$, the class has nothing, it's just numbers. Other spec complain about the priuning, yet none has reached the abyssmal level warlock has.
You're litteraly the reatrd who fell for the trap "let's hide our %^-* design behind op dps".
Go back on your other forums, you don't belong here, no one wants you
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09/11/2018 19:22Posted by Dittmar08/11/2018 05:50Posted by Aciddadicted...
its people like these that blizzard listens to, they have 2 brain cells to make a connection and just post whatever stuff they have in their brain at the time
Seems same as your and OP post btw and whole crying lock forum.
Aff is one of best DPS spec. Try spriest, ele or something. Legion was just lock and mage fest. Blizz should nerf that 2 class to the ground.
Can you please send me a link that shows in Mythic raiding Affliction among the top DPS specs?
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09/11/2018 19:56Posted by Inagony
Can you please send me a link that shows in Mythic raiding Affliction among the top DPS specs?
ppl realy need to relax on the numbers, god, its getting annoying. we dont need to be top dps in anything, you just need to the the mininum dps required to kill the boss. any raid leader would prefer a raider that does less dmg but gets the tactics right.
if 16ppl have 15kdps and you have 13/14k, you think ur "bad" because you get in last, but its not that of a diference.
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09/11/2018 20:03Posted by Gulduck09/11/2018 19:56Posted by Inagony
Can you please send me a link that shows in Mythic raiding Affliction among the top DPS specs?
ppl realy need to relax on the numbers, god, its getting annoying. we dont need to be top dps in anything, you just need to the the mininum dps required to kill the boss. any raid leader would prefer a raider that does less dmg but gets the tactics right.
if 16ppl have 15kdps and you have 13/14k, you think ur "bad" because you get in last, but its not that of a diference.
I am not sure why you are writing such a thing. The person I quoted said "Aff is one of best DPS spec". So I simply asked for a link that shows Affliction is indeed ONE OF THE BEST DPS in Mythic Raids. I asked because I know it isn't.
Affliction is the BEST spec. for Warlock and its not "best" at anything.
Problem is that we have 1 decent spec, while other specs and everything else is just not worth it.
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Demonology is pretty good dmg wise, i do a lot of high end pve and i do well, check my logs, abd keep in mind that my azerite shoulders have bull!@#$ traits, my stats arw bul%^-*, i do not have more than 3 BIS items and still manage to do well in pve. But yeeaaah, warlock, especially Demonology is in it's weakest iterration in terms of gameplay (not numbers), Demo is very boring in comparation with MoP/WoD Demo(it's BEST iterration ever). My advice is:
1. Reroll
2. Stop playing
I choosed option 2, as i still have 15 days of GT, i will not buy another token, and i will never play anything else than Demonology.
I'll come back to official when they will bring back MoP/WoD Demonology Warlock.
I suggest you to do the same as me and maby they will do something when they see that warlocks are leaving their game.
1. Reroll
2. Stop playing
I choosed option 2, as i still have 15 days of GT, i will not buy another token, and i will never play anything else than Demonology.
I'll come back to official when they will bring back MoP/WoD Demonology Warlock.
I suggest you to do the same as me and maby they will do something when they see that warlocks are leaving their game.
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09/11/2018 19:56Posted by Inagony09/11/2018 19:22Posted by Dittmar...
Seems same as your and OP post btw and whole crying lock forum.
Aff is one of best DPS spec. Try spriest, ele or something. Legion was just lock and mage fest. Blizz should nerf that 2 class to the ground.
Can you please send me a link that shows in Mythic raiding Affliction among the top DPS specs?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/19/
Here! Aff is nr 3 dps on logs damage wise. It's a brain dead spec tho, amd a very boring one...
09/11/2018 20:49Posted by ManikkessDemonology is pretty good dmg wise, i do a lot of high end pve and i do well, check my logs, abd keep in mind that my azerite shoulders have bull!@#$ traits, my stats arw bul%^-*, i do not have more than 3 BIS items and still manage to do well in pve. But yeeaaah, warlock, especially Demonology is in it's weakest iterration in terms of gameplay (not numbers), Demo is very boring in comparation with MoP/WoD Demo(it's BEST iterration ever). My advice is:
1. Reroll
2. Stop playing
I choosed option 2, as i still have 15 days of GT, i will not buy another token, and i will never play anything else than Demonology.
I'll come back to official when they will bring back MoP/WoD Demonology Warlock.
I suggest you to do the same as me and maby they will do something when they see that warlocks are leaving their game.
Same except I did reroll and enjoying the game thanks to guilds and friends and altoholicking.
09/11/2018 20:49Posted by ManikkessDemonology is pretty good dmg wise, i do a lot of high end pve and i do well, check my logs, abd keep in mind that my azerite shoulders have bull!@#$ traits, my stats arw bul%^-*, i do not have more than 3 BIS items and still manage to do well in pve. But yeeaaah, warlock, especially Demonology is in it's weakest iterration in terms of gameplay (not numbers), Demo is very boring in comparation with MoP/WoD Demo(it's BEST iterration ever). My advice is:
1. Reroll
2. Stop playing
I choosed option 2, as i still have 15 days of GT, i will not buy another token, and i will never play anything else than Demonology.
I'll come back to official when they will bring back MoP/WoD Demonology Warlock.
I suggest you to do the same as me and maby they will do something when they see that warlocks are leaving their game.
Your logs for heroic and normal are pretty meh. You're the same ilvl as me and I have almost full 99% for all heroic and normal. My damage is still kinda meh by comaprison to other specs.
I don't really give a !@#$, to be honest. I'm having fun with demo, even in casual PVP.
09/11/2018 22:35Posted by Atriohm09/11/2018 20:49Posted by ManikkessDemonology is pretty good dmg wise, i do a lot of high end pve and i do well, check my logs, abd keep in mind that my azerite shoulders have bull!@#$ traits, my stats arw bul%^-*, i do not have more than 3 BIS items and still manage to do well in pve. But yeeaaah, warlock, especially Demonology is in it's weakest iterration in terms of gameplay (not numbers), Demo is very boring in comparation with MoP/WoD Demo(it's BEST iterration ever). My advice is:
1. Reroll
2. Stop playing
I choosed option 2, as i still have 15 days of GT, i will not buy another token, and i will never play anything else than Demonology.
I'll come back to official when they will bring back MoP/WoD Demonology Warlock.
I suggest you to do the same as me and maby they will do something when they see that warlocks are leaving their game.
Your logs for heroic and normal are pretty meh. You're the same ilvl as me and I have almost full 99% for all heroic and normal. My damage is still kinda meh by comaprison to other specs.
I don't really give a !@#$, to be honest. I'm having fun with demo, even in casual PVP.
I said that i don't have my BIS gear and stats, ilvl doesn't mean anything if my traits and stats are !@#$, your stats are perfect but still, that's really impressive performance. Should i try Grimoire: Felguard instead of inner demons?
Anyway, as i said, our nubers are fine, better middlepack than op for 2 weeks than nerfed to the ground, but Demonology is so boring in BFA, i really miss metamorphosys and chaos weave and old demon bolt and soulfire and touch of chaos, that spec was perfect!
Honestly I feel absolutely the same way.
Warlocks feel absolutely terrible in terms of play style at the minute. I want to reroll but since I have so many achievements , title and reputations grinded to this specific character , I just cant let it go and start over....
Either make every achiev / title / mount /rep account bound so we can just reroll in peace, or fix our damn class !
On top of that now we cant even wait to be Zandalari locks because of who knows why, and here I am on the verge of cancelling my subscription...
Warlocks feel absolutely terrible in terms of play style at the minute. I want to reroll but since I have so many achievements , title and reputations grinded to this specific character , I just cant let it go and start over....
Either make every achiev / title / mount /rep account bound so we can just reroll in peace, or fix our damn class !
On top of that now we cant even wait to be Zandalari locks because of who knows why, and here I am on the verge of cancelling my subscription...
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10/11/2018 00:29Posted by AzmodayHonestly I feel absolutely the same way.
Warlocks feel absolutely terrible in terms of play style at the minute. I want to reroll but since I have so many achievements , title and reputations grinded to this specific character , I just cant let it go and start over....
Either make every achiev / title / mount /rep account bound so we can just reroll in peace, or fix our damn class !
On top of that now we cant even wait to be Zandalari locks because of who knows why, and here I am on the verge of cancelling my subscription...
Zandalari can't be locks, is official.
I decided to drop my warrior and rogue that I played for 8 and 4 years to reroll warlock at the end of legion, going on with a class that requires more skill/thinkig since rogus were immortal in legion (feint no cd) and warriors became the most pruned, boring and one-dimensional spec in the game.
I REGRET NOTHING MORE.
I REGRET NOTHING MORE.