Delves hotfixes ruined it

With tonights hotfixes, the current state of delves on a tier 8, with 590 ilvl is unplayable when running into rares as a solo elemental shaman.
I would like to request another tuning or a reversion of the damage changes in delves. Some delves are so badly tuned that only one mob can be pulled at a time.

Since the idea of delves are supposed to be fun and slightly challenging, I understand where the change is coming from. Right now though, the scaling is a like a m+ dungeon and is too highly tuned.

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ā€œrecommend ilevel 600ā€. Youā€™re 590. Drop it to tier 7 if its too hard for you.

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Blizzard are insane if they think they can have one setting in Delves that tunes the solo content to be challenging for Tank, Melee DPS, Ranged DPS and Healer, who all bring different toolsets, with different survivability and damage profiles. And this is without even considering how different classes and specs within those roles varies. The reason questing and world events work solo is because they are trivial, you donā€™t need 70% of your tools to do them.

These hotfixes overnight made a frustrating experience worse, and almost eliminated the viability of grouping for Delves as well.

Itā€™s unbelieveable that right now some of the Delves with a group of five players are harder than the Mythic0 and Raid content for Season 1.

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As a Tank I can tell you Delves feel so frustrating at times, some mobs will take 70-80% of your HP in matter of seconds, thus preventing any bigger pulls, sometimes dying to unfortunate pull or unknown ability.
On the other hand, some other mobs feel like bullet sponges where itā€™s mostly tedious to fight them with Tanks DPS.

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Also tried 8 delve today solo on mage. Was horrible

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Was there another silent hotfix after initial wave of feedback / complaints or Iā€™m missing something?

For the last 2 days I was doing the 8 solo on my tanks (never did group delve), I woke up today and I read that delves are impossible now. I ran Eartcrawl Mines to test how screwed I am, and it was actually way easier than 2 days ago when I first tried it.

I doubt itā€™s ilvl difference, because yesterday I had the same ilvl in other delve and the Nerubian mobs were hitting much harder.

So am I missing something about those ā€œimpossible delvesā€? Or are they only impossible for the groups? Most of those comments I see are from 4-5h ago, so Iā€™m wondering if there were some additional changes between bluepost and now?

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I gave a delve a go, despite hearing everyones complaints. As from the Bluetracker it seemed it mostly hit the group stuff. So I thought maybe they just hadnā€™t attempted it outside of groups. Bare in mind; I am not a great DPS, I am a healer main for a reason. But going in as heals just feels too slow.

As of yesterday I was able to get up to the last bosses with some challenges but nothing major to note, and getting the last bosses down was sometimes luck, sometimes impossible and I would have to leave. But thats a skill issue.

But I always made it to final boss in a T8 with 4 to 5 lives remaining, despite being very much below the Ilvl. Today? I didnā€™t even make it half way before my lives were depleted. It was a horrible experience, I like a challenge, but this didnā€™t feel like a challenge, it just felt like this massive steel wall.

Going by various people I knowā€™s experiences, because of the scaling, going in with a group right now is even worse than doing it Solo.

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As of today 13/09-2024 the Delves on T8 are not doable as a group, mobs double triple and quadruple in health and the damage also increases and the damage is HIGHLY overtuned melee damage from some mobs are 1.3mill - 2mill per hit and not to mention there are now ā€œZekvirā€™s Heraldsā€ in the Delves that are extremely overtuned in health and dmg output meaning if you stumble upon these heralds you literally hit a wall, or at least I did and Iā€™m 602, my main spec is Augment OS Preservation, meaning augment is out of the question solo, preservation sure, I can outheal some of the damage but eventually Iā€™ll die, this content has literally been ruined in less than 24 hrs, going from doing it with a slight challenge with friends to impossible with friends.

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Itā€™s honestly impossible. Elite mobs feel like end bosses and the minibosses are simply undoable. It just also doesnā€™t make any sense - why would you make something so hard if it drops at max 603/610 loot? It should be doable at a level slightly below the item level that it dropsā€¦ Iā€™ll go play M0, this is it for delves unless this gets fixed -.-

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Delves are disgusting now. Playing this is bulldepartures.

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awful! before i could solo t8 with few lives remaining but the scaling on these mobs. lets say for example today, Earthcrawl Mines. managable. with some mobs 5m and then the spell caster 25m which is ok. but then you get over the bridge. velo and coā€¦ all my CD and they instagib me in seconds. cant even polymorph. its ok if they want to reskin Torghast but to have this level of increase overnight is just a scam

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Yeah the scaling is ridiculous, there were so many T8s that were doable now its just ridiculous. The scaling does not add up, delves are like doing mythic plus with further affixes for being solo content. They need to really look at what they promise to deliver, Delves might as well be looked at as very hard dungeons.

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Thanks WoW for doing same garbagge again, well another reason end sub and play something elseā€¦ for not raider and M+ nothing to do moreā€¦

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They ruined fun idea with random out of nowhere nerf. They should not implement changes like that without any warming, consulting, patch notes etc. I saved my keys for the weekend. People who pushed theirs yestreday are geared and happyā€¦ itā€™s unfair to make such changes during the weekā€¦

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Thatā€™s not the point. They messed up the group scaling. I soloed a tier 8 with 567 ilv VDH. Tried the same one right after with 2 friends, and I was getting 100-20% HP within a second against some mobs. One of the mini-bosses did so much damage our entire group died in a few seconds.

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Yesit is the point, youre complaining about your own issue, not the OPā€™s.

Delves are straight up broken and ruined right now.
Mobs have more HP than the actual Delve boss.
Packs take several years to kill even with a group of pumpers.
A single mob having 250Mil HP is beyond idiotic.
Blizz messed up here with the scaling and some changes need to be made.
I can agree it was too easy but now itā€™s just beyond tedious.
Itā€™s not even end game content as it doesnā€™t drop Myth track items so why push it to this extent?

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I wouldnā€™t consider myself a bad player at 595 ilvl, former mythic raider and m+er. If I struggle with this, how are ppl supposed to do it at that level who donā€™t invest as much time into the game.

Plus the scaling between solo and group content is just way out of whack.

They can lower the level canā€™t they? Until they find a level of challenge suitable to them.

Getting one shot by the Invasive Sporecap rare in the Waterworks delve was interesting at level 8.