says who ? you ?

says who ? you ?
Everyone in 580 gear who did tier 8 as a party I guess.
For myself, I walked into a T6 as solo 580 tank, found a mob with 40m hp that auto attacked for nearly a million and has some of those awful spores that just chase you down and explode. Decided I can’t be bothered with that nonsense. May never do delves again if that’s the solo experience.
As a Demon Hunter with ilvl of around 585 I had Torghast flashbacks today, trying to solo the last boss of a T8 delve ( the nerubian that summons mine carts ). At one point she simply starts dealing 1 million damage every swing. She also has 3 casts, 1 of which is really bad, and you can’t kick them all due to cd. This removes all possible notions of skill from the equation and simply turns the fight into a DPS race. It’s terrible tuning/design and I could bet my soul that other classes like BM Hunter would have way less of an issue doing that boss.
If you’re going to make solo content that competes with Raids in reward then it needs to be balanced, and a mob hitting me for 35% of my HP with unavoidable attacks isn’t balanced.

and a mob hitting me for 35% of my HP with unavoidable attacks isn’t balanced.
As above, I was close to that in just a T6. There’s nothing fun about that, and there’s no counterplay. I’m not really sure how the delves are meant to be balanced, but that one sucked.
I might go try some that I’ve done at lower levels with other characters. Seems like the kobold ones go better.
Frankly all I want is to get through a 6 and 7 so’s to be able to join groups for 8s…

There’s nothing fun about that, and there’s no counterplay.
It was the same in Torghast. Felt punished for playing Havoc instead of BM Hunter who could solo the same content with 30 ilvl lower than me.
Tbh I had a bad feeling as soon as I heard about Delves, I just knew some classes would get free loot.
sam bro.
its not easy as a all dps class and you don’t know if brann will decurse or remove poison or decise
8 seems okay, but 9 was a humbling moment. I talked to one of the rares to start the combat and I got 1 shot lmao

It was the same in Torghast. Felt punished for playing Havoc instead of BM Hunter who could solo the same content with 30 ilvl lower than me.
I haven’t forgiven that caster boss who spammed a massive blood bolt that didn’t actually go on cooldown when kicked. Might as well not bother, all you could do was try to mitigate that nonsense.
That and it was RNG whether your class was a god or a scrub in Torghast. Ilvl and skill didn’t matter as much as how much the devs blessed you with the good powers. Felt amazing as mistweaver, terrible as resto druid, amazing again as resto shaman. I actually ended up picking alts based on their Torghast performance because if I couldn’t solo it easily then they were dead in the water.
At least delves aren’t that If we end up ignoring them and doing group content instead, that’s not really a big deal. They’re an alternative to doing the tough stuff, not a mandatory bolt on that we can’t say no to. This does make me forgive them if they’re a bit carp. (Although I will be annoyed that I spent time revving up to run T8s this week.)

I haven’t forgiven that caster boss who spammed a massive blood bolt that didn’t actually go on cooldown when kicked.
The boss I was up against was doing 1 million damage casts and 1 million damage autos so it was basically the same thing. Pointless to kick the casts.
The tunning is quite Bad .
Playing with my alt .
Party of 5 doing a 6 the boss has 63 million
Trying to do a 7 solo , the boss has 59 million ~ Trying to do a 6 after~ the boss has 48 mill~
I don’t understand the tunning but the only way is to make a party since solo is pretty much overturned
At this rate
the more players, the more hp

the more players, the more hp
If a solo boss has 59 million a 5 man boss should have way more than 63 million, since a party of 5 has 3-4 times the DPS.
Yes but solo has 48 mill while in party of 5 has 63 mill , doesn’t make any sense .
what t are you on?
back in thorgast, it didn’t say recommend ilvl, but it does on delves

the more players, the more hp
It should be way more of a difference between soloing Hp and grouping Hp.Not 10-15 mil but 50 at least.
And Torghast did have a recommended Ilvl,I remember that for sure.

Yes but solo has 48 mill while in party of 5 has 63 mill , doesn’t make any sense .
Haven’t been able to test that myself, but if that’s true, then yeah, that’s completely BS. It should literally be 100% HP increase per person in group. At least. Considering the amount of extra utility and CDs you gain from playing in a group.
I had the same experience as you.
Running delves with a full dungeon group (meaning 1 Tank, 3 DPS , 1 Heal) is much easier than running them solo.
Would be nice if they got tuned harder for those types of group compositions.
Delves need to be much much harder since they’re so short. Reading through the hotfixes Blizzard seem to be working towards that though which is great news.

I just did a bunch of tier 8 delves in a group with a tank and a healer (I was dps). Those runs were easier than doing a tier 4 solo, and substantially easier than M0 dungeons - by a really, really large margin. Bountiful delves drop better gear than M0s too, and the same track as the normal raid.
This can’t be quite right?
Yeah They’re nuts as solo dps class.

Delves need to be much much harder since they’re so short. Reading through the hotfixes Blizzard seem to be working towards that though which is great news.
??? what are you on about
Reduced the amount of health and damage that delve enemies increase by when other players are added to the group.