My main points of contention are metamorphosis and door of shadows. I just want to have fun pressing these two buttons as the dot from Venthyr is pretty boring…
Whatever is takes to have metamorphosis as a 2min cd I would welcome it just so my rotation feels more fun and I get to press it more often. We already have such a simple rotation with hardly any buttons.
And door of shadows got nerfed, apparently it was instant cast before! Don’t nerf the fun out of stuff please instead buff other stuff. It looks like everyone got buffed and is having fun and no one cares about DH anymore, can we please have fun like everyone else in this expansion Night Fae get instant cast blinks, 2 of them!
I would really hope that door of shadows can be lowerd to 0.8s or 1s cast time. It could actually pressure a blink then and might even be cooler with a cast time because we can then cancel it if they blinked out.
Checked yesterday guild rooster we these days have always 110+ members, it was like 1-3 dh strangely enough 1-2 priests and rest the other classes, with druids being the clear winner being like twice as many as any other class.
It sucks to be at the bottom, but for once at least nobody is wining about dh, which i considered stupid in bfa anyway we werent so good as people made us to be neither in pvp nor in pve, but still i can play the class i like without being accused of fotm.
Yeah the nerfs are annoying but really not having everyone crying about us or trying to invalidate our achievements with “dh op duh duh” sure is a nice perk. Still I hope we get some buffs (bring back the dodge on blade dance plz bliz).
But we STILL get called DH no brain. The DH hate has not stopped. We are being punished for Blizzards class design. Please Blizzard we don’t deserve this hate from the community. But seeing as it will probably never go away, you could at least give us a better rotation so we can argue back and tell people our class does take skill to play, and if they got beat by us it was their own fault.
I disagree. I saw a post about Rogue’s being OP devolve into DH hate… The large majority of people have this perception of DH and it is widely reinforced over time and compounded by the amount of times you hear it. It spreads like fake news… And before you know it, Trump is president.
I’ve seen this happen quite a few times since coming to the forums. And my own close friends also sh** on me for it after JUST getting back into the game…
Please blizz, it feels terrible to be a DH, but this could be fixed by redesigning DH a bit. We don’t deserve the hate for loving this class.
I mean I read it and it’s just one guy getting ridiculed because he talks a awful lot from someone hiding his account.
I mean yeah they are memes and hate about dh but those are easy to disprove, sure havoc is on the easier hand of the spectrum when it comes to dps spec but it’s simpler than most of the easy specs like ret pally or frost dk. People just refuse to admit it because believing their spec is harder to play flatters their ego.
We could use some changes, but padding difficulty just for the sake of “proving” ourselves is pointless. Most enjoy dh gameplay because it’s fast paced, if people want to watch for procs they can go enhance shaman or have like 20 keybinds for situationnal abilities they can play warrior. We don’t need to prove ourselves to some randos.
Rogue and Mage have a lot more buttons. But this also means they have more tools for different jobs. I do think they are perhaps a little over complicated and I do enjoy the simplicity of DH, especially as someone who is trying to get high pvp rating against people who have played for years. DH is easy to master compared to Rogue Mage, this is just a fact. Whether I like to admit it to them or not to boost their already huge egos, it is true. I have chosen to play Mage as my alt, it feels as though it will take thousands of hours to master in pvp, where as DH I can already have fun. This is great for new players!
Do I want DH to be this hard? No. Would it be nice to have more buttons and more tools for different situations and the added bonus of the player base not calling us easy anymore? Hell yes it would!
I would refer you to one of your previous statements.
Anyway back to the subject at hand.
I also wanted to mention why eye beam refresh sucks.
I pull too much, ok time for metamorphosis (I’ve been holding it for 30mins…) but eye beam is halfway through its cd, I hesitate, almost die, use meta, but feel like I wasted it because I didn’t wait for eye beam to come off cd so I could refresh it instantly. This rotation sucks. Please give us 2min meta back
I don’t know about PvE, but I dropped DH in PvP for good for now, my warlock can survive a lot more for some reason, and it’s not even on fear or anything, for example I can kill rogues, on DH I die in seconds. Too bad, it’s a fun class, I really like the theme.
In that situation remember to use blur+darkness, even nova to gain some time.
For me it’s the opposite, I just can’t do anything to rogues on casters. I still struggle against them on my dh but I manage to kill them sometimes. Rain from above is pretty good against them.
Just curious, has any other havoc mains had difficulty getting in to mythic now that we have been nerfed? I still find my aoe damage is good but single target is falling short but worried all the talk of the nerfs will make it harder to find a group
Night Fae get instant cast blinks, 2 of them!
tell them you will do more dps this way and runs will be safer
which is so sad