I really want meta on 2 minute cooldown. Right now its like the only cooldown DH have and the cooldown is too damn long. Also if something would change about blade dance to make it useful in any way that would be neat
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Yes, Demonic base line makes sense, though if they do that they will nerf it probably otherwise its going to be hard to balance, especially if you take (and are able to use effectively) momentum with it.
Not sure about Cycle of hatred, even with the talent, that’s not much dps improvement, more of a quality of life this one. For it to be effective you have to have very long add fights and very often. First blood, however needs to be baseline, everyone is taking this talent because it feels too essential to Blade dance to be effective. And again, give us the Blade dance dodge back, Blizzard!
What I absolutely do not get is that Meta is not even strong, many classes have stronger cds on 1,5 min cd or 2-3 cds … meanwhile we got meta, which is not reaaally that strong on 4 min cd … like what.
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I mean of course it would need some balancing but as it is atm even if they gave us Demonic baseline and we could take some other talent and Cycle of hatred and we could take some other talent … We would still be doing tank dps on single target most likely.
And yes First Blood is quality of life change, it makes the rotation at least somewhat interesting … atm your optimal singletarget rotation is to not press blade dance (if you do not have the talent), same with immo aura and you just spam chaos strike … hardly interesting rotation.
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Or at least the Meta does not feel strong. In theory it does its damage, you hit your buttons faster due to the haste buff but that is about it. You turn into this huge demon only to have some 20% haste and still press the same buttons, which although in theory do a bit more damage, you don’t see it in game unless your abilities crit or you check your DMG meter.
Back before the nerfs to its leach, at least we were able to slavage some situations by off tanking a bit in Meta.
It feels like this whole ability is balanced around Demonic. Maybe they should be separate and Demonic stay as it is now, while Meta gains also a Crit buff for its duration. That way when you turn to that demon you will feel you are tearing mobs apart when you see those crits flying.
Thats what i do not understand … R3 can have Crusade with 30% increased dmg and 30% haste or so with 2 minutes cd … we have 4 mins cd with 25% haste and thats it pretty much.
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Also giving the excuse that its easy newplayer friendly class doesnt work. What about hunters? BM is even easier Mm isnt that hard, havent played survival cant say. Arcane mage…doesnt require engineers degree to play…none of the classes are impossible hard to play so i hate that people use that excuse.
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Yea I do not understand why people are using this as an argument, pretty much every class is easy to play nowadays, I play WW (which is considered as the hardest melee) and havoc and the difference is not really that big …
Also if Havoc is noob friendly (which it is) I would recommend it to a friend who would want to get in the game … but then they would just suck, get insta killed in pvp and stop playing again … like what is the logic behind this.
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The class being “easy” to play doesn’t justify the current state of its damage output. I also don’t know why people think UH dks / MM hunters or really any other class is “difficult”, they may be harder to play but that doesn’t matter.
Classes don’t compete with other classes, logs compare you to others playing your class, thats the competition.
Having demon hunters be weak renders a big percentage of the playerbase useless, which doesn’t help anyone. You want others to be useful in an mmo. It is literally in everyone’s interest that demon hunters get a buff.
Also, the momentum build requires just as much “difficulty” as most other classes. So just buff that build then so idiots who complain about “difficulty” can spare us.
Will we ever get some of the old glory back?? I mean the class is so bad now im too afraid to pug mythics … the unjustified hatred for dhs is just so stupid … Some even hate the class just because everyone hate it.
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I started tanking instead. You can at least be usefull with spirit bomb build, but as havoc … its just depressing.
i was in raid, boy what a shame … DK’s pulling 200% of our dps with worse gear 
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When i raid this friday im closing my dps charts and muting everyone… Dks are going to get nerfed they are ridiculous atm UHDK i mean but when thats the question… ireally hope balance patch comes sooner than later.
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What a joke. We have only one DPS spec and it’s behind literally every class on DPS.
that may be true but today i got somehow a invite, tomorrow i doubt it … It’s gona be dk’s for melee priest for ranged, i cant even outgear them
Lucky my guild isnt that picky and they are supporting me for playing what i love, but this class isnt pugable…no pugs will take havoc over lets say rogue in m+ …
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Time to dust of my uh dk…
Ye it’s simply absurd to be declined any form of M+ invitation… stood there for 30 minutes trying to get into a team and nobody would even consider me… wtf has blizzard done to this class.
The only reason I even got in a Raid run was cause they wanted my 5% magic dmg buff and I was the only DH and it was with a guild I have raided with for the last few years otherwise.
They simply made DH as a class to be taken just to improve your caster classes (give more damage to bloody arcane mage that does absurd dmg already)
And for the extra salt, Blizz put both are best Legendary drops on the last 2 raid bosses. Too bad Gallywix is gone, cause demon hunters are gunna need them to get invited to a group.
Oh yeah that 2 legendaries coming from the last 2 bosses is like seriously another screw you DH players thing. Most of my guild mates have a legendary…i do not which hurts me even more… We wont kill the 2 bosses anytime soon eather so here i am stuck with bad dps and no legendary.
I did few mythics with guild yesterday i do well in aoe situations but the single target fights i just close my dps charts, i dont want to see it.
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