Ok, but officially anyone making a new Void elf character in 9.1.5 and customizing it as not Void corrupted effectively RPs as a Helf and not as Velf, and for those RP purposes they could add regular Paladins in. Especially if they considered adding in the race sub-categories I suggested in Moontear’s thread.
Either way, I am not too bothered. I actually root a lot more for Void elf shamans and druids rather than DHs and Paladins, although Void elf DHs would surely fit and are definitely lore appropriate.
Well Dwarves were given Shaman In cataclysm as a result of the Wildhammer.
Night elves were given Mages on cataclysm as a result of the Highborne who joined their society again.
But, Paladin is a bit tricky. For starters
Paladin is not very common with the High elf community. It only started being normal part of Silvermoon AFTER the High elves got exiled, when the Blood knights (blood elf Paladins) were created.
A few high elves learned Paladin from humans in order to join the Argent Crusade, but that’s really it. It was never iconic to their race.
Hunters and Mages represent majority of their race, followed by a few priests, warriors, Rogues; and even fewer/ rarer Paladins and warlocks.
Void elves cannot use or learn a Paladin as we all know what happened to the blonde natural skinned alleria when she touched the Sunwell
Hint: Boooooom
Alleria: ohhhhh my Gaaaaawd
Ok I’m joking about the Alleria comment but you get the idea.
Adding a class that doesn’t make sense for the sake of Roleplay is not something I think they will do, UNLESS they remove class/race restrictions all together. Otherwise, I can’t see it happening.
You’re mixing up Light and Fel; Void + Fel is the explosing stuff. Being a Void-Paladin would just be incredibly painful (in a psychological way) for a ren’dorei, not impossible. I mean, look at disc priests, and Lightforged Shadow Priests.
Void elf DHs would therefore in my eyes actually be impossible, while paladins… could work. But yes, I’d prefer a “paladin-skin” for void elfs, which turns them rather into a void-version of a paladin; would be more fitting.
Hmm… I’m not so sure about that. Firstly, something that’d go against your theory of fel combined with void would be a boss within the Hellfire Citadel (WoD raid) Xhul’horac, who we have seen using both fel and shadow/void. Also, shadow magic is rather common among demons, though I suppose that we could see it as not yet full void.
Also, about the void and light exposure, I believe it was stated in the books or comics (well, not sure here but definitely outside the game) that when Alleria and Turalyon touched, it caused them pain. They are still two different beings, so I’d say infusing oneself with both of these energies could result in a cathastrophic way.
Yes, but that’s exactly the point, The whole boss fight works around puddles of void and fel that explode if they touch each other.
Not necessarily. But could be you’re right. In my headcanon it would work either way; I stay a little closer to the actual game play and well: there are disciplin priests, so it has to be possible.
Being able to roleplay as s high elf and actually being a high elf are two different things. Anyone using those customisations has more latitude to pretend but they are still pretending.
The jokes and flirts refer to the character as a void elf. /Who lists the character as a void elf. They speak with the reverb effect
They have void elf racials. They even bleed purple.
These options do not make these players high elves, it just makes it easier for people who want to to roleplay. I respect the desire to roleplay but that doesn’ mean that I or other players or the game has to agree.
In fact I can roleplay right back. Any Void Elf who comes up to me and insists they are really a high elf has obviously gone mad from the trauma, because they are clearly void elves and every void elf is at risk of going nuts.
Not matter how much like a high elf you can customise a void elf to be, it is still a void elf.
‘The void quickly grew and spread its influence, moving against the flowing waves of light. The mounting tension between these two opposing and inseparable energies eventually ignited a series of catastrophic explosions rupturing the fabric of creation’.
I mean come did I even have to go and quote that? Light and Shadow being opposites is as fundamental to fantasy as good and evil and white and black. Fel is just corruption and it has it’s own opposite.
And Priests are not a good get out clause. For one thing, they wield the powers of the light and the void rather than acting as avatars of it. A Paladin carries and is defined by the light. A Void Elf carries and is defined by the Shadow. The two are fundamentally incompatible. In fact when the devs were asked a few years ago what class-race combinations didn’t make sense, Void Elf Paladin was the example immediately cited (the dev in question who made the comment has since been fired though and I will not utter their name).
Newman: Are there other examples like that, where there are classes that just don’t make any sense at all with the selections available at launch?
Warcraft Dev: Paladin for Void Elves, because that’s weird.
And I am deeply opposed to the idea of class skins to accomplish this. A Paladin works the way it does because of the Paladin’s faith in the light and the grace of the light to the Paladin…which can be withdrawn. The light deals in absolutes, there is one path and that is the source of their iron certainty and will. Remember when Tauren were given Paladins they didn’t create a nature based equivalent to explain why it happened, they wrote a story of how some of the Tauren, in their own way, came to the light.
The void is the opposite, it deals with endless possibilities. It seduces adherents rather than bestowing power through the reciproicty of faith and grace. A void based paladin can’t exist because the very nature of a paladin is antithetical to the void. What you are suggesting would be an entirely new class. Which would not be a paladin.
And the last thing we should be encouraging is Blizzard further bastardising their own lore.
“Opposing” doesn’t necessarily mean they destroy each other and just because a void elf channels light that doesn’t mean their bodily mutation interferes with the mental channeling of the light. There is also a difference between those raw cosmic powers gathering or being integrated in a living being, I would mean.
(I’m btw mainly talking about void elf holy priests, I don’t really care about paladins.)
Demon hunter on the other hand have clearly fel in their blood, as have void elves void … so that would cause an explosion. Fel and void react to each other not because their are opposites, but just like different chemicals react with each other.
Well, you could be just as fanatic about the void… and become a paragon of void instead of light.
They trigger catastrophic explosions when they interact to the point it caused the warcraft version of the big bang.
You are trying to make excuses or invent caveats to find a way a Void Elf Paladin can work all while citing why fel and void can’t really co-exist.
The truth is neither works. A Void Elf can’t be a Paladin and a Void Elf can’t be a Demon hunter. This is why another race should be selected for new Demon Hunters when the options are expanded.
And whatever a ‘paragon of the void’ is I can guarantee it shouldn’t function exactly the same way as a Paladin except with void substituted for light.
Why not just reconcile yourself to the fact that not all races can be all classes and that the remaining combinations which have not been implemented have not been implemented for VERY good reasons (for the most part).
Undead Druids don’t exist for obvious reasons. Neither do Night Elf Warlocks.
Your class skin solution is simply taking time from the art team that could be used on things like extra customisations for the races that all classes could use to circumvent the lore to provide a tiny, miniscule amount of people something which violates the story.
Why would Blizzard do that when they could just pop Paladins onto Night Elves at which not one person would bat an eyelid and say ‘Alliance elf paladin over there’?
