Which was written as a way to introduce playable Demon Hunters, before that, most vanilla-to-Legion era DHs only had a blindfold, warglaives and runic tattoo’s.
Before Legion, those fel mutations were non-existent. You can easily see it in the screenshots made on the pre-Legion DH’s including Altruis the Sufferer!
Oh I’m quite aware, but I tend to roll with the most recent take on lore - until such a time as they’re altered or expanded upon yet again.
sorry bud, Illidan is canon. if you prefer your dhs un-mutated, thats your perogative, and everyones perogative as an rper to rp their dh as mutated or not as you like, i have dhs across the mutation spectrum in my guild, but, trying to argue Illidan as some kind of inferior lore source? lets not.
All the wow novels are written to serve some kind of in game purpose, you don’t get to pick and choose which are canon, unfortunately for us all given how much lore a lot of us would like to Pretend We Do Not See It
What are you even on about? I wasn’t even talking about Illidan, just talking about the pre-Legion Demon Hunters.
Illidan is in a whole different league then any other DH’s.
Hell, even now you can make your DH’s look exactly like Pre-Legion Demon Hunters, which also shows that not all Demon Hunters have fel-mutations to begin with(with maybe the only exception being their felfire eyes)
But thanks for the higher-then-thou attitude, bud.
In fairness, we have some pretty bog standard skins available as player Demon Hunters. We see them being used as well. That being said, I tend to roll with those being examples of less-than-obvious mutations, rather than an absolute absence of any such changes.
i mean Illidan the novel, the one you were derisive towards for just being a way to introduce player dhs? In the exact comment I replied to? I didn’t realise I had to clarify between the character and the book, but I guess context is hard in a reply thread.
Anyhow i’m not against the idea of non mutated dhs, as i said I actually quite enjoy the vintage DH aesthetic and i like seeing it, just that looking down on a lore source for being -just- a way to add something in game is silly.
o yeah no i love the look of pre legion dhs. Vintage DH aesthetic is very nice and I think theres a lot more variety you can give a dh character than we’re given credit for.
I have no idea at what moment I was derisive against the novel, since I love the book and the lore it brought for Demon Hunters.
I was just replying to the fact that older, pre-Legion DH’s had no such mutations, and most probably still don’t, so that it wasn’t a hard fact all of them should have demonic mutations… And the fact that we are able to customize them to look exactly like pre-Legion DH’s is also a sign that not all of them have Fel-mutations(with exception of the eyes)
There are indeed two generations of Demon Hunters which are very different. The Illidari go through a ritual that is very violent and gains power very quickly. And the former Demon Hunters who learn over time to master the power of the fel to increase their physical abilities and obtain powers. And who can take decades or centuries to absorb enough demonic power to start mutating.
But as early as Warcraft 3, Demon Hunters had mutations. They were represented similar to Kaldorei but physically “stronger”, with black claws on their hands and feet.
These are not big changes! But it’s a few mutations. But the Fel has this effect when used. And even more so when used in one’s own body. Everyone who has had this experience has mutated. Orcs turned green, Sin’dorei turned red with horns. The fel orcs ended up with spikes on their skin. Etc.
This is an inevitable effect of fel! The more you use it, the more you bathe in its power, the more a demon you become. A process that is slower depending on how it is used.
This thread is mostly just making me wish for more DH customizations so they look a bit less uniform while being mutated by chaos itself
give dem,on hunter ability to soar
also do you like my mog?
its me, professional demon hunter and part time air waste saying that its cool to drink the fel juice
heard it here first folks. demon hunters? good.
You hit the nail on the head when you’ve brought up the ending to the DH introduction. We’ve never been formally invited in to join either the Alliance or the Horde, but merely to set camp and help against the Legion.
And by “help” I mean that the faction leader quite literally threatens us and outright disclaims that we’ll be used a weapon.
The Demon Hunter is by design and the lore surrounding them, an outcast, and they should be played just as such.
Personally, I think tenuous tolerance is the way to go, when it comes to in world interactions between a Demon Hunter, and a Kaldorei. (If not most races, really. I don’t think a Tauren, Orc or Draenei would like a Demon Hunter any better, by sheer virtue of their demonic corruption.)
Anyway, roleplayers be roleplayers, and people can interpret the current state of Demon Hunters however they like. Your best bet is just to find the people you jell with and hang out with them.
Of course it is. They purged a Dreadlord and turned him into… whatever Lothraxion is. And Xe’ra was going to turn Illidan from his half-demon state into… God knows what.
It’s just magic. It can be dispelled with more magic.
We saw this with Grom too. They turned him from a Fel Orc back into a green skinned Orc. I’m sure there’s more examples out there.
Only in mentality and approach. The ritual is the same for both kinds of DH, the only difference is that illidari in the black temple were mass-produced and mass-trained to be basically soldiers whereas exiled demon hunters were loners that lived isolated lives outside the borders of (specifically) kaldorei society.
Mutations do happen to every demon hunter, they may be more or less visible but they are a quintessential part of becoming a demon hunter. And more importantly, they are completely random. A demon hunter doesn’t get to choose to mutate. It just be.
This difference involves the old lore VS. the new lore.
In the new lore, which has been canon since basically Legion and before, we have a much more high fantasy portrayal of creatures, to the point that demon hunters have become these super-flashy demons-humanoids, to an extent that wasn’t displayed before.
As a DH, I think you can choose whatever you want to be - you want to be a humanoid with few mutations? You can. You want to be a fallen angel type of thing, or a nightmarish archdemon with wings and horns? You also can.
Both are valid DHs!
I mean they absolutely can OOC, but nothing written suggests the Demon Hunters assert any level of control on the matter. Which is fitting, considering fel is categorized under the “disorder” umbrella of magic.
definitely, I’m talking about what you can do on an OOC level - I would recommend to embrace the corruption. Mutations kinda show you’re different from the norm and that’s a huge part of your class, plus on occasion it adds a layer of “interactive personality” - a mutation which spawned from the first demon you drained? Could be cool!
I think this to be honest.
In a perfect world where every zone had Roleplayers and a community to partake in many issues wouldn’t exist. Same issue Death Knights face really. Why would they be walking around in Stormwinds park? More likely than not the Death Knight has no other place to be to interact with people. It’s silly , sure. I wouldn’t personally do it . But I get it.