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The game revolves around being in a war and not Blue VS Red. The confirmed endgame is about an old Anduin leading everyone into the space with Velen to fight the true last enemy (Son of the Wolf comic, which is still canon).

Given the reaction to BfA, they will likely drop the all-out war concept for future expansions.

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I think that most Horde players are tired of their leaders characters getting assassinated for conflicts sake.
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If the A nd H are not becoming buddies after that, they should at least stay like “Aldor vs Scryers” at this point, but never in an open war again

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No no no, let’s leave Lor’themar and Thalyssra alone they are the best Characters and Leaders on Horde side atm also let them be in Love for some time and i wouldn’t be surprised if she will be pregnant in Shadowlands time :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: :grin:

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I’d rather be in perpetual faction war than follow that ultra bland Gary Stu around the cosmos.

Nathanos deserves to be a dungeon boss that pulls an enough on us and players have to endure 2 years of M+ of him enoughing us.

The salt would be great.

This is the endgame of the storyline where we will likely pull another forced “hand of fate”-stunt by either Illidan or anyone else. They have set up the Void Lords for some quite time now.

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Oh Great Nathanos will use Krillin’s Solar Flare technique on players and escaping again for another Expansion :sweat_smile: :joy:

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Most horde players are tired of being spun as the evil faction yet not able to actually be the evil faction.

There are two paths for the horde atm.

1- Honorable band of exiles
2- Evil warmongers

Both of them are fine for the majority of horde players, but we are never able to choose one, were always thrown around at the whim of blizzard.

And methinks its probably because the vocal minority alliance players have seizure online whenever something they don’t like happens.

I can’t count the amount of level 20 / 58 horde alts saying something something that isn’t even hordelike.

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Oh, they have around 40 or so years to retcon that trash.

The problem comes from what had always been the problem in the past.
The Horde since classic had been not either
1- Honorable band of exiles
2- Evil warmongers

but

A Honorable band of Exile Evil Warmongers.
Which is of course an oxymoron identity. Such a self conflicting group should have collapsed from within.

Even now the majority of the Horde races are not even being exiles anymore. Even the Orcs are now “Children of Azeroth” (adopted)

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Totally agree with you, blizzard needs to finally give the horde a proper identity.

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Horde had a proper identity when Thrall formed his Horde but Garrosh and Sylvanas destroyed

But Garrosh as Warchief was Thrall’s fault for his choice, but well bad decisions happens sometimes, he’s not a Prophet

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Cause hes my childhood hero. Kind of like how kids looked up to Batman or Superman or whatever and wanted to be them. I wanted to be Arthas cause hes just the most coolest character ever, in any video game.

Of course it isn’t.

They will find another excuse to drag out this pathetic xenophobic crotch thrusting for another expansion.

And as long as there is people still content to place factionalism in a video game over common sense it will continue or are content to just sit there and let the horde be the “bad guys” while “durrr morally grey innit!!” without slamming their collective hands on the table and yelling “OK you know what? We are tired of having abysmal leaders and major npcs’s with zero staying power. And we are tired of bloody orcs and undead hogging everything…”

And before any Alliance chip in, you’re just as bad with the over reliance on Humans.

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What’s the common sense then? Orcs and humans holding hands? That is the literal antithesis of this games soul. The faction war is completly essential to this game and without it WoW would have 0 staying power. I’d say that the best raid of BfA was Battle of Dazar’alor, because it was focused on the faction conflict, it felt real and visceral. The other raids just felt filler and boring. Especially N’zoth, that’s one of the most lackluster encounters ever.

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Facts, yeah i agree, Alliance and Horde should be like Alien and Predator Eternal Enemies and no Peace :grin:

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Alliance won BFA canon? Lol.

They do let factions win a war, just not to the extents of destroying the entire faction it’s canon more that alliance won this war :stuck_out_tongue:

Onto the OPs question, no we will never see peace :stuck_out_tongue: not from a lores standpoint at least

That’s great then :grin:

If i know in another games when Peace comes for the Characters that means something yap like Franchise is over and Story too :point_left: :grin:

Per example in Metal Gear Solid games they only had Peace when all Snakes were Dead and Story was over and Franchise too

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Useless victory then.

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Void Lords alive: Check
Army of the Light under the Light Mother Naaru alive: Check (Yes they are an evil faction and defacto at war with anyone who doesnt blindly follow them (and the Mag’Har are in a direct war with them and as such the Horde)
Shadowlands guy: Check.

Thats in the very least 3 expansions. Or three main villains.

Not going to happen because we cant. The only one capable of killing Sargeras are either the Void Lords OR Azeroth herself. So he can only die via a cutscene where he gets swooped. This was already clear that we as the player cant face him even before they hard nerfed him with the retcon. The Void Lords will also share Sargeras’ fate of being killed via cutscene.

Garrosh was the strongest Warrior on Azeroth only rivaled by Varian.

Better than Garithos for sure in terms of actually being a threat in combat but frankly Garrosh would wipe the floor with Rastakhan in a 1v1. If we count Bwonsamdi empowered Rastakhan then we shall also count “Garrosh Hellscream, Avatar of the strongest Azerothian Old God Y’Shaarj”

Arthas had a functioning brain to say the least. The entirety of WotLK was thought through aside from the Wrathgate and the Light actually showing up ontop of Icecrown. Arthas WANTED you to slaughter everyone in ICC and face him in combat. He merely toyed with you during the fight as well. Not to mention him being one of the few beings aware that the Players are immortal beings (the only other one aware is Illidan. The rest, such as eonar, at best merely suspect it. Can semi count the Void because they call the players “the movers of fate” (brawler campaign))

Hm. Never assumed i would have missed a part of the lore. I have to go back studying i suppose.

The Light as in “THE Light” does not say its good. Its a neutral force so to say. The light itself doesnt give a rats of what you do with it. If you pray to it, it will answer. The people wielding it are saying “its good” such as Yrels faction. The Light is just as corrupting as the Void tho, that is correct. Gonna have to side with the Void tho because tentacles and eyes.

youtube.com/watch?v=oxY89F5oU-I

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