Considering the assa rogue nerf, rmp still gon be on top, don’t think cb doing more damage is gonna put destro on top when they still squishy and you burn through defensives quick with all the classes glued to you because they have giga insane mobility.
point with harry potter cleaves is that if you train one the other one will destroy you.
destro is reasonably tanky and still puts out dps when trained. if not trained you get cced into oblivion and regularly blasted by quadra chaos bolts on all your team. so you have to train them. now add ele, you got a peobl3m because ither would just blast your team.
it will always be a balancing act to make them very tank
Both Destro Lock and Ele Shaman are busted right now.
It is super unfun playing arena right now because this is all you face.
That is getting desroyed. The DPS was there due to bane of havoc bug, its getting fixed. Dest is not Ele, its not going put out pressure with 30-40k limited instant conflags + SBs.
I really don’t think destro is tanky at all.
How is it bug btw? It didnt have the dmg reduction in tooltip for last 6 years and it worked exactly same for whole time and now after 6 years they discovered its a bug? Disaster as usual.
i mean you still have single target instant dmg.
3x conflag, 2x shadow burn and if necessary you still can havoc coil and blast 2 bolts out with loaded ruin.
it isnt ele when trained but now with basically 25% biff to chaosbolt you certainly cannot leave destro unchecked and then you got the typical wiz cleave back. you cannot train both targets and if one can destroy you already it will be ch3ck mate.
comparing to other casters it it.
passvie shield, more hp, low cd big shield, wall, lay on hands and some mobility to even counter some hard stuff.
i never felt incredible squishy on my lock compared to e.g. mage where something connects you lost half your hp
Thats around 150-200k damage in 5 GCDs. And people usually play Roaring Blaze so it should be 2x conflag + 2x SB and best case scenario thats 150k damage in 4 GCDs (if all crits, which they won’t) and after that you just wait SB and Conflag CDs, which is 50-60k damage every 10 seconds. Thats just disgustingly bad. Its the bane of havoc talent that made Dest do this damage to all 2 or 3 targets and put out overall decent DPS (30-40k).
So it received a big nerf to its overall damage and has to rely on chaos bolt itself to put out pressure.
Yesterday I literally went through this;
Warr charges, spears, i gate, he leaps and hits a 150k MS, i circle port, charges again hits another 100k MS (meanwhile took around 140k damage from the spear).
Whats crazy is that I popped Pact and did not press wall because Warr had like 2 seconds uptime or something on me, yet he almost killed me (my Rsham had to pop asc. when I was at 10% HP).
There is not a single spec out there that can stay still against 2 melees even if they don’t have their cooldowns up. Including Dest.
Go show us footage from Maldiva, Dakk, Jazz or any Lock player being able to stay still against a melee cleave.
And Pala more broken than Ele. Why you post on a Pala!
classes that need nerfing is assa rog damage and arms warrior mobility
Thank you, ppl. with common sense still exists.
how about we nerf warlock as a whole.
where are they getting that much health from??
And feral dmg nerf
feral already got nerfed , its your turn now
More ferals in the awc than warriors:)
More arms warriors and assas rogues than ferals on statistics in 3s and 2s 
don’t believe me? check. pvp. com
Thats not a indicator for skill many players forget it gets balanced from the top to the bottom and most ppl at the bottom complain w there l2p issues and cry about anything.
Feral assa dh mage and after wednday lock and hunter will be s tier feral does even more dmg than a dh and dont pretend its killable tony survived 3 full traps.
Sure it is bro , just like assaa rogues are defending their broken class all the time you warrior always white knight your class , how about treat everyone equal and nerf assa and arms already and buff enhance shamans
well you are not even top 0.1% yourself so you cant talk either then by your logic
spaming pw yeah sure , atleast its not as faceroll as arms is , i run away , you charge , i knock you away , you leap , i root you , you bladestorm , i run away again charge storm bolt and spear and big boom swifty macro of 3k rated skill nuking someone into obilivion with 50% ms on top , so much skill man teach me your ways.
rerolled assa rogue in 2 days got 3k with it without a problem , just proves how broken some classes are including yours since you are blizzards favourite child and they had to give you ignore pain back without gcd aswell yeah sure
Lets not pretend that the mobility arms warriors have right now is fine, either lose the damage and keep mobility or nuke their mobility to oblivion and buff the damage
now imagine queing into 2 apes both playing arms , if you can escape one im sure you wont escape the second one, give spear the same treatment dks got with limb , 1 or 2 pulls and thats it , make spear pull only 2 times
two most played classes in 3s rn is arms and assa explain that to me then mr rank 1?
in solo arms is top 3 bellow disc and havoc , surely arms is not broken right?
in almost all brackets feral is bellow arms
it is not healing except dark pact and healthstone. Just read spells describtion, most healing is Soul Leech which is basically regular Leech but it goes as absorb so it’s more effective. Still capped at 15% max hp though. If all passive damage reduction were shown at details every class would have more or less same healing done