same classes still dominate for 3 ssn stright
pvp changes are too small and comes in years
no answer from devz
pvp mode deserted
cant find ppl in q for hours playing q simulator
already playing on a private server and find insta healers left and right and actualy having fun ill rather pay donation to a private server then for sub to this disaster
WRATH WATING ROOM!
People will calm down very quick once wrath releases. They will finally understand the meaning of âbalance issuesâ.
ButâŚbutâŚhow else are you gonna whine and copy paste your issues in every thread that exists?
edit: silly me, obviously you will whine about warrior/hpal and chaos bolt/lava burst 1 shots. Then you can vent about how the ââdevzââ from 12 years ago also did a sh*t job.
Yes, when they pay boosting guilds for shadowmournes and rets and arms warriors 1shot every player in their way who isn´t a ret or arms warr.
big false shadowmourne is good but spellcleaves are still better in 3s and the best âmeeleâ is probably hunter
warrior is just good because holypala is so op and they synergize very well
not saying warrior and shaman are bad tho
But man ICC 25HC Gear for Casters is just differnt Ele/Destro Ele/Affli are just insanely broken
Check Warmane private servers, the outcome of bgs and arenas are determined by how many lolmournes are present, if you are playing anything else, you are just there to be roflstomped over.
See here i can see that u dont know much u know why Warrior/Hpala is so overpopulated on Warmane? Warrior is the easyiest scriptable class and paladins can have a file to make their sacred cleansing avoid almost any spells.
Warmane is full of nonlegit scripters, nolifers that spectate the que 24/7 and only snipe.
If u would really have played on AT or Warmane alot u would know that aaaallloooooot of people got banned mostly Warrior or Hpala Warrior/Hpala Teams
i played on that server prolly 10 Years and reached very high Rating on it maybe u should ask other Veterans like Drainerx,Merce,Homerjay or many other AT Vets
U know theres a reason Double Caster Cleaves were not allowed on Tournaments in AT
u know whats so great about wrath anybody can hit R1 we even had a Feral/Disc on R1 idk how but they did it
Rshaman/Affli so good Ele/Destro Hpala/Lock SP/DK SP/MAGE SP/ROGUE idk so much variaty and the fact that u think 3.3.5 Ret SM is so good ur prolly not high
Oh and lets not forget if u can donate ur self SM for 50 Euro why should u not play it? Warrior/Hpala is the most easiest forgiving comp in 3.3.5 its just like Hunter on retail
And Hunter on wrath is soooo haaard not many people play it even tho it is better than Warrior with ICC 25 HC Gear but it has the highest skill cap among all speccs
The rose tinted glasses already came off for most people when it comes to old PVP in Classic WoW BGs, thatâs why the participation dropped hugely in TBC then Season of Mastery. WOTLK will have an even lower population than TBC after the initial 2 weeks of release, there will be one megaserver with one active faction and every other server will be dead after 2 weeks and blizzard will do nothing about it but you will pay for the boost to that mega server and to that faction haha.
nah tbc pvp is just boring
world of druids rogues tbc private server always had the lowest pop with cata server wrath had the highest for the pvp community
Wrath had the highest because it had all the classic world content (old world pre-cata, outland, northrend).
WOTLK classic will be an absolute ghost town, 1 server with 1 active faction mark my words.
but u know that the most succesfull wrath pvp server had all npc´s removed from the world and only gear vendors and que npc´s ? just saying bro
and the gigantic blizzlike servers are all pretty much ghosttowns? or do u think someone cba staying in the oldzones? for âworldpvpâ i played on a 4k pop Server and still i didnt see people at every corner
Even the worst burst from a Destro lock with resolve trinket this season or a crazy windwalker monk spinning crane kick proc with bonedust brew last season seems balanced and amazing compared to the horrific crap that is PVP in Classic WoW, TBC or WOTLK.
nah this conversation now lost on worth u cant even compare all 3 even tho i dislike 2 expansions from those 3 u mention alot u cant even compare this closely
rn i can jsut read a lot of hate + a active sub
tbf pvp wise wrath is 10x better than classic or bc. All the big private servers are wrath.
wotlk pvp was really good. Not as flawless as people make it here in the forums because it has its problems in gearing and balance (especially 2s) but the classes feel really really unique and fun.
not true at all
unless youre talking about low mmr 2s, the meaningfulest bracket
You just got out the Lich Kingâs personal Copium reserves with this post. Wrath is crazy unbalanced worse than the current game and only marginally better than TBC. Raid loot being bis in Arena and essential to be competitive immediately makes it garbage tier then add the awful class balance.
Imagine how dog-s tier Wintergrasp is going to be on classic as well, itâs not just the unbalanced arena/bgs.
Look, I donât even think SL is that bad and I think every season in WoW had itâs wtf parts, but you are overexaggeratingâŚWotlk pvp was ok, and miles better when tbc when it comes to spec representation and diversity and overall playstyle. Whenever I am watching tbc classic arena streams, I have a feeling 90% of that is some rogue, mage or druid running around the pillar, waiting for cds to come backâŚhowever, watching Wotlk arena vidoes actually made me want to play those classes, which is why I rolled elemental shaman as my first main many years ago.
It will suffer from the same thing Classic and TBC Classic suffered - people will optimize the fun out of the game.
I agree with you that people are often hypocritical when they praise former seasons and criticize newer ones, and I think nostalgia and yearning for simpler times plays a big part in that, but that is in human nature I suppose.
Back to the Wrath pvp - yes, I think it was fun. I think every season in WoW was with the exception of BfA seasons, especially s4. That expansion was a system soup, and nothing, nothing will be worse then having 70% of your dmg be some idiotic external power like gushing wounds, twilight devastation etc. combined with sluggish, dampening slow gameplay. I canât believe some people would actually claim it was better then SL.
But this is nothing compared to the number of currently viable specs and comps tho? Literally the only spec that is consistently being an underdog atm is arcane mage, and even that can work in the hands of a competent player.
The Specc part i think 2s rn is very limited honestly 3s is fine
But maybe that are my Private Server googles since everybody FOTM´s on Retail and u only see XXX Every Game
This guy gets it 
Wrath PvP was a mess. Oh, and the majority of Dungeons and Raids are boring/easy as well.
But FOTM has been on tbc classic as wellâŚrogue, frost mage and rdruid make up overwhelming majority of classes I see representedâŚI am not confident people wonât just flock to op specs on WrathâŚbut I hope I am proven wrong.