DF is worse than SL

[Devchonka-blackmoore]

m+ is really pointless when reaching valor cap. basically play couple of hours per week and youre good

[Dhobban-ragnaros]

@Devchonka-blackmoore

m+ is really pointless when reaching valor cap.

Except for

• Getting score increase to upgrade items.
• Increasing item level of vault going all the way to +20 keys giving 421 ilvl items.
• Farming out trinkets etc. on higher ilvl.

[Leviosaah-twisting-nether]

@Dhobban-ragnaros

@Devchonka-blackmoore

m+ is really pointless when reaching valor cap.

Except for

• Getting score increase to upgrade items.
• Increasing item level of vault going all the way to +20 keys giving 421 ilvl items.
• Farming out trinkets etc. on higher ilvl.

I second this.
Basicly, everything you play M+ for anyway

[Devchonka-blackmoore]

just no. 10 chars

[Leviosaah-twisting-nether]

@Devchonka-blackmoore

just no. 10 chars

Yes.

[Dhobban-ragnaros]

@Devchonka-blackmoore

just no. 10 chars

I pointed out why m+ is not useless after valor cap. Those are facts. They don’t care about what you feel like. It’s fine not wanting to do it, but saying it’s useless is just a lie.

[Jóóló-drakthul]

@Vinzora-draenor

-Bad lore, the only thing I can remember is some cringe brother rivalry. Too much politics in the game. For the first time ever I had to turn off dialogue audio because every character is annoying.

-Boring dungeons with too much running and boring mechanics. SL dungeon mechanics were way more creative instead of dodge the bad stuff on the ground.

-Bland music, I can’t remember a single tune from DF.

-Nothing to do outside of m+ and raiding.

IS this about shadowlands?
cause it fits shadowlands more then Dragonflight

@Vinzora-draenor

-No interesting borrowed power systems like legendaries.

When you eat snickers all the time at first you will like it but as time progress it’s gonna be disgusting because you ate too often too much

[Devchonka-blackmoore]

the only facts given were in my post

[Dhobban-ragnaros]

@Devchonka-blackmoore

the only facts given were in my post

Yeah I’m not gonna argue with someone who doesn’t know how it works. Have a good one.

[Devchonka-blackmoore]

yeah go upgrade your items with your score and play 200 runs for 20+. you clearly know what you talking about

[Cutebrews-silvermoon]

Yeah have to say it’s pretty boring. At least SL had the Maw content on launch. Had way more fun in SL season 1 than now. Shadowlands gets way too much unnecessary hate, especially from guys like Belular who doesn’t even play WoW very often.

[Leviosaah-twisting-nether]

@Devchonka-blackmoore

you clearly know what you talking about

He does though.

[Billyblue-magtheridon]

@Vinzora-draenor

-Bad lore, the only thing I can remember is some cringe brother rivalry. Too much politics in the game. For the first time ever I had to turn off dialogue audio because every character is annoying.

I only have 2 issues with the Lore.

1. It has never been explained why the Dragon Isles have opened up again. It just seems like the Dragons decided to go back after all this time.

2. There is no sense of impending Doom in the background of the narrative. The Primalist are there, but there doesn’t seem to an urgency about them.

@Vinzora-draenor

Boring dungeons with too much running and boring mechanics. SL dungeon mechanics were way more creative instead of dodge the bad stuff on the ground.

I wouldn’t say the Dungeons are boring. I think the dungeons are poorly tuned. But I do agree the Shadowlands dungeons were better.

@Vinzora-draenor

Bland music, I can’t remember a single tune from DF.

The music is absolutely banging!

@Vinzora-draenor

-Nothing to do outside of m+ and raiding.

I’ve been kept quite merrily busy over the past month. I’ve barely got time for M+ or Raiding.

@Vinzora-draenor

They completely scrapped the novel idea of challenging single player content like Visions and Torghast.

Honestly, I’m glad we don’t have either of those. Both Visions and Torghast were a disaster for me. But that’s because it was Forced content.

However, I wouldn’t be against them putting challenging solo content in. Just don’t force me to do it.

@Vinzora-draenor

No interesting borrowed power systems like legendaries.

This is a very good thing.

@Vinzora-draenor

Zones are big but there’s nothing to do in them. Ironically it felt easier to get around in SL and in DF it feels like a hassle even with dragonriding.

Dragonriding has certainly made travelling around the continents alot more fun.

The zones aren’t empty, there are definitely things going on in these areas.

@Vinzora-draenor

-Too much sharding, open world feels like a single player game.

Doesn’t make a huge difference to me.

@Vinzora-draenor

pvp gear upgrades removed so there’s no incentive to get higher rating.

Not a PVPer. But I have already found PVP to more accessible than it was during Shadowlands, which is something I always moaned about.

I’m actually looking forward to PVPing again.

@Vinzora-draenor

-Professions is the worst “content” to focus on, farming nodes is not content.

Then don’t have a gathering profession. I don’t on my main. I have Tailoring and Enchanting. Everything I need I buy from the Auction House and resell at profit.

The profession system does have a few Flaws which do need to be addressed. Such as a lack of Catch up system, unable to respec Talents, too many specs professions and specs are unable to level past 70/100.

[Kentarro-argent-dawn]

@Billyblue-magtheridon

It has never been explained why the Dragon Isles have opened up again. It just seems like the Dragons decided to go back after all this time.

I’m not sure about this one, but judging by the dragonflight cinematic, it seemed - well to me at least - the elements started to stirr on the island; Koranos - the last stoneboi - awoke on the shores when the earth rumbled, an earthquake, then the storm… when he walked inside the Keep, maga boiled up from the borken earth and it was earthquakes again
To me at least, it seems the Primalists actions caused the “guardians” to awake and signal home the Dragons - except the failsafe almost failed and only one stoneboi remained, who managed to activate the beacon and unlock the dragons memories and called them home

[Devchonka-blackmoore]

first two points obv. made no sense since you cant spend score for items. its called valor points. second point just no. you cant spam m+ for 20. its unrelated. Just do 20 on wednesday and youre good for weekly. last point complete waste of time farming the trinket. big facts tho

[Leviosaah-twisting-nether]

@Devchonka-blackmoore

first two points obv. made no sense since you cant spend score for items. its called valor points. second point just no. you cant spam m+ for 20. its unrelated. Just do 20 on wednesday and youre good for weekly. last point complete waste of time farming the trinket.

You need score to be able to upgrade using valor.

You can spam M+ to do +20s. You need to complete 8 for 3 vault slots. Also you need to spam M+ to upgrade your IO to be able to join +20 groups.

Last point i’d say is more appropiate for weapons, since you really really don’t want to upgrade them with valor

[Billyblue-magtheridon]

@Kentarro-argent-dawn

I’m not sure about this one, but judging by the dragonflight cinematic, it seemed - well to me at least - the elements started to stirr on the island; Koranos - the last stoneboi - awoke on the shores when the earth rumbled, an earthquake, then the storm… when he walked inside the Keep, maga boiled up from the borken earth and it was earthquakes again
To me at least, it seems the Primalists actions caused the “guardians” to awake and signal home the Dragons - except the failsafe almost failed and only one stoneboi remained, who managed to activate the beacon and unlock the dragons memories and called them home

Well, that’s what I assume has happened as well. It’s just not explained.

All we ever get is “Hey we (dragons) have gone back to the Dragon Isles”, “The Dragon isles have awakened”… it just doesn’t explain why.

It leads into the Lack of sense of impending doom. If there was a feel of impending doom like “OMG the Primalist are causing havoc, quick lets get to the dragon isles” it would feel like it makes alot more sense.

[Devchonka-blackmoore]

@Leviosaah-twisting-nether

You need score to be able to upgrade using valor

no sh.t but tze score is there already from previous weeks.

if you are new to this game then its fine but dont spam with your non-knowledge

[Maissileipa-silvermoon]

“challenging single player content like Visions and Torghast.”

oh you jester! you almost had me

[Leviosaah-twisting-nether]

@Devchonka-blackmoore

@Leviosaah-twisting-nether

You need score to be able to upgrade using valor

no sh.t but tze score is there already from previous weeks.

Not if it wasn’t.
Getting 2.4k score isn’t something you do in two weeks…
Neither something you do in the 5-6 dungeons it takes to reach valor cap.