Because people love the endless whining about a two-key class that has top DPS and doesn’t require brains to play it. A story as old as time. It still makes me laugh that they don’t have new arguments, they just keep repeating the same thing, but what can you do?
Remember my words
U are already saying atm that dh is terrible in ST fights and thats just not the case.
I didn’t say DH is terrible in ST atm. WW is terrible, Retri is terrible. DH is in the middle between Sub Rogue (top end) and WW (bottom end) so no adjustments required. But this “AoE nerf” will also lower the ST dps by ~1.5%. At some point Blizz will have to buff DH again, even if its just a 5% buff on Chaos Strike.
The only thing thats terrible on DH is its lack of wanted support in M+. So one could argue that these “unwanted” classes should keep a slight dps advantage if not getting Bloodlust or Combat Rezz at least.
1%, according to Shadarek’s pinned post at the Fel Hammer, not 1.5%.
Probably the sigil of fire nerf will also affect your ST but then again u wont even notice 1% nerf.
All DH AoE skills are also used for ST, so its not just the Sigil. Though 1% is a little too optimistic (we will see when sims go live with several build variations) its still 1/3 of Paladin or Evoker buffs so yeah its noticable.
The basic problem is the nerf pattern during the previous balancing hotfixes. Instead of nerfing the AoE exclusively by for example reducing maximum targets, they roll in kind of aura nerfs. I really doubt Blizz will stop here cuz DH (among some other specs) will still do far more dps in M+ than others post nerfs/buffs.
It’s always good to find someone on the forum who knows better than the spec guide writer…
So who’s responsibility is the state of DHs atm ?
They are doing waaay more damage than other melee DPS, they are the top Tank …
Someone is bad at their job, we want to know WHO and what is going to happen to them to prevent making the game worse by making one class be so much better than others.
Deal with this person fast, our game time is running while the game is in this state !
It has reached a point where I avoid DHs completely, even if they are 200k lower health than me… Because they will still out damage and out heal me…
Just attacked a DH with 600k health, with my 850k health Balance Druid, and got completely annihilated. I innitiated the fight, and in the opening burst got him to 50% health, and then he started attacking me… And within 3 sec he had full health again, and my health was at 40%… And as usual with DHs this patch, I died 5 sec later… Or rather, got NUKED
I don’t have this issue against other classes atm.
PvP is in such an unbalanced state this expansion… Every patch has a new class, which just completely overperforms in PvP, and it has never been more about “picking the class”, than “picking the player”, than it has this expansion…
It’s so frustrating doing PvP, and feel obligated to play certain classes in order to play certain content…
Enemy team had 2 DHs and those two players made the game a win. Imagine that, two players counting more than a whole team of other players.
They had over 3 times the kills from anyone on either teams, combined they killed our team multiple times over and only died twice each.
How can one class stay this strong this long? It’s absurd, they win every 1v1 and are way more oppressing than anything else while being masters of survival. My class is strong too, I’m not saying that but at least I have weaknesses to counter the good sides. DHs have no bad sides.
Yep, DH is still strong af, but even 10.2.5 patch seems to come without any class tuning.
I dont like DH or the players… 1 person states a fact and a huge wall of insults from DH… Wait till you get the nerf hammer and people dont want you in arenas, rbg or raids… I will cherish that day, I will even pop it in my calendor and make it a yearly celebration…
oh come on… DH dont need nerf… we know it will come anyway at some point or others gets buff… you only complain now due to getting killed… i reamber as a DH getting more or less one shot by a mage… a warlock… a pala… a druid at somepoint might not be in dragonflight but it did happen… so now its DH time to be on top… next patch or expansion it might be monks and then you go cry there nerf monks… over and over…
If u think dh need another nerf u either bad or stucked on 2.8k rio. They buffed mage when mage was already broken in m+ and now mage is the best class in the game, so u can stop crying about dh nerf.
Like my favourite saying goes, of which I made my self [il sensor it] “Annoy me now, annoy me later…”
Which means basicaly what you do now, will affect you later…
Since your a pro at having a go at people, all people will do is boycott the class… Thats what im doing and im sure people will follow suit…
Your salty tears taste delicious.
Yeah DHs are absolutely broken right now… It’s the ONE class everyone is avoiding in PvP.
They went from “I need a pocket healer ”, to “I am two healers in one ”.
It’s at the same ridiculous level as with Paladins, right after their rework.
You people need to differentiate between the state of the class in PvE and PvP. Currently, now that all classes are caught up on gear and after a few balancing passes, DH’s DPS in PvE is FINE. It’s not over the top overpowered, we are topping on some fights (only if you play correctly) and we are middle of the road on others. In dungeons we are destined to be at least A tier because this class is just designed around AoE and not ST.
I understand that the class forum can be used for both PvE and PvP but it’s obvious that the core majority of the game is designed around PvE. It would be better to post about your desired nerfs to Havoc in PvP forum.
Have you tried confidence?