Please can we get rid of the stupid soul fragment mechanic. I am expected to come off my target in pvp and collect them? And the balance is built so I must pick these up, but if I want to keep pressure up this is impossible sometimes and I can’t get the heal I desperately need.
Please remove this RNG mechanic it sucks.
When this procs we should just recieve the soul fragment instantly and definitely not have to pick it up off the floor from some random location.
So what… you’re upset you don’t have a perfect 100% up time on something?
You talk about hating RNG, do you realise it was basically RNG every time you tried to stun a DH because blade dance? yet you are complaing about having to move a few inches to the right or left to pick up a self heal? XD.
They should add more depth and mechanics to this class not remove them because you dislike having to do something other than go through your dmg rotation for 90% of the game.
how do you expect new players to get into the game when they justy get farmed and melted and just because they chose to play a class that is fun but apparently everyone hates then try post on forums about a stupid rng mechanic which NOONE LIKES RNG IN PPPVP DEMONSTRABLY yet none of you play DH obviously you just want it to be bad and eveyone poops down your neck about it, this player base is trash i might actually just quit wow
p.s lol you can’t wait till they use blade dance? that’s not rng that’s just you can’t time your stun lets be honest
Play it and learn, like everyone else before them. You have BG’s to get used to doing dmg with PvP, you have Skirms to get used to an arena environment and you have Youtube guide and streamers to watch to learn thing, I played close to 4k games to get from 1800 to 2.2k in S3 on Mage, then a further 3.5k games to get from 2.2k to 2575, its not as simple as… pick a class and insane climb, it takes hours of practise and learning.
Problem with you new players in PvP is you think because you’re new you should never play against anyone that knows more than you or has more skill than you… step out side your little bubble for a second and realise every player that has high rating took loss after loss after loss to improve their gameplay and climb, you think having a noob friendly class that is very easy to get high value from is going to get you into arena and improve you? what happens when you eventually get bored of DHs very shallow depth and switch over to another class only to realise you are back at square one getting crushed because you didn’t really learn much about the game on a DH since DH doesn’t really require anything of you other than going through a DPS rotation that is basically impossible to fail.
What then? you going blame the game and the player base for that too?
Put the time and effort in and you’ll improve, its really that simple… you get out what you put in.
If you want to quit that’s on you, not the player base.
I have achieved the highest rank in Battlerite, a very high skill arena brawler that has very similair mechanics to wow. It uses tank healer dps holy trinity. I have 2k hours in this game. I have 2k hours in Dota 2. I have hundreds of hours in Tarkov and Pubg and Warzone and H1Z1 from back in the day and Scum an extremely hardcore survival game.
I just got deleted 15 matches in a row. I barely had time to use 3 or 4 cooldowns.
I have acquired every piece of world quest gear I could to get my item level up. I’ve done all the Magni bronzebeard stuff for my cloak and my azerite necklance. I have all the stamina upgrades from the necklace and I have slotted it with essences.
I play DH because of the cool abilities not because I need an easy class. I know what it takes to be high level pvp and I have even done the pve required to get my item level over 100.
What is my problem is there seems to be no matchmaking, I’m getting matched against people with much higher gear OR the nerf to DH is too strong. Therefore I try to offer my constructive feedback and suggest that a RNG mechanic making me come off my target for the all important heal I need is bloody horrible as a very experienced competetive pvp player.
Before pre patch I was having a lot of fun and a medium amount of success with my hunter friend.
Now I just get deleted and the game is no fun anymore. They should have at least waited till SL to take away pvp scaling. And honestly, if I can’t have fun in theg ame why play at all… if SL feels like this I’m definitely out.
Also wow player base and forums are toxic af, no wonder no new players come to wow when this is the attitude. I lkiterally hear in youtube videos people actually want the game to be people die easier and less time to kill and more unbalance. That sounds liuke the outcry of unskilled pvp players to me.
I’m going to start off by saying this is WoW, not Battlerite or any of those games… it plays different, I don’t care how close you think it is… its a different game and you will have to learn it as such.
Its pre patch, you shouldn’t take anything seriously atm. You probably don’t know this if you are new to WoW but in pre patch the games balance is shifted to the new lvl cap (60) so PvPing at lvl 50 is going to feel like a mess since its not balanced around this level. Different classes scale differently with gear, some classes that are weak now could be extremally strong at max lvl with gear in Shadowlands.
You can play whatever you want, my point remains the same, its a class with a low skill floor.
First off if you are playing Skirmish there is no match making, if you are playing ranked there is.
In terms of getting crushed in arena I think the reason it feels like this right now is because they for one nerfed DH’s insane self healing (it needed it), they also removed corruption and I think this is probably what is messing with you… the problem with corruption was (Gushing wound in particular) it allowed complete noobs with very little skill or grasp on the game do insane dmg. Alot of people over look that doing dmg in arena while doing everything else is a skill, its the most basic skill in arena they you need to learn how to do well. Corruption basically removed that basic skill wall, now its gone many people who hadn’t gotten past that basic wall are now upset and blaming class nerfs for why they can’t win because corruption is no longer playing the game for them and they need to now have an optimal dmg rotation, uptime while managing their positioning and CDs AND the enemy teams positioning and CDs… they basically have to play the game again to win. You’ll find this with alot of Mages now too, they can’t play the class anymore because Greater Pyro is no longer a spam able spell and they don’t know how to play the class out side of it that mechanic. Its the same story for alot of noobs that saw success due to gushing wound.
Long story short, if you were using Gushing and BFA S4 was your first season in WoW PvP, forget everything you think you know about how your class works in arena because you’re basically back at square one… which is good, Gushing & the insane self healing made is impossible for a good DH to separate himself from a bad one, you can do that again now corruption is gone and the healing is brought down. So if you want to get good in arena… spend the time, if not quit like you said, Its all on you.
You know what the problem with you wow players is. I have 5 days 23 hours on my DH. 2 days 2 hours on my Rogue. And that’s not to mention all the other shiz I levelled up on Grim Batol that is listed as an english server but turned out to be overwhelming majority Portuguese. That’s in 2 weeks or so.
Apparently this is not enough effort to not get deleted in under 5 seconds. You need gear to compete but cannot earn the gear and the player base just calls you trash for all your efforts. My experience in wow started great, but is just becoming frustrating, annoying, not fun at all. Now I come to forums and take time and effort to write posts because I’m a passioniate gamer, but instead is just met with snarky comments and wowsplaining and dismissive massive attitudes and people just outright calling me stupid. I want to have fun and am trying really hard to do so but no matter how much you type, I feel you are going to lose players like me trying their hardest to get into SL who are willing to commit a lot of their time and effort.
Pretty much I am the type of player I feel wow wants to bring in. People who want to play for years. Pvp just feels horrible and completely not skillful at all with pvp scaling removed. Before it felt much much better to me. How can you earn gear when you have none but it is required to win matches? I need to have fun while I’m gearing and getting more powerful. Being shat on for hundreds of hours is something I am not willing to do even though I’d be willing to play for years. You need to have fun while you play, right now the game feels horrible to me.
Like pathfinder for BFA for flying? Hell no do I want to do this. Being forced to do tons of pve for pvp. No thanks…
No one likes the gearing system, its something that BFA has been hated for actually. They’ve made quite a few changes to it in Shadowlands so hopefully its going to be as good as they are making out.
People hate your class, simply because it has a low skill floor yet does high dmg and had a built in I frame etc, you have to do little to win other than just deal dmg. While other classes have to work for it, a good player can easily lose to a bad DH just because of the high out put value the class has for the low effort… and for that people hated it, this is why I mentioned Gushing… that made people hate it 10x more because at 2600 MMR DH players are just PvE winning by doing 30k sustained DPS while having access to high mobility, high self heal, high utility that’s extremely easy to use so Corruption inflated that. People just hate how obnoxious that class is, it has nothing to do with you.
PvP scaling was not good for the health of the game and neither is gear being so dominant that it trumps skill, we’re all hoping Shadowlands will be different and they’ll make the game more skill over gear instead of vice versa.
If you will have to invest alot of time into just queing over and over, recording helps so you can look back for mistakes, having the correct addons and your UI setup properly also makes a big difference, But it wont happen over night.
No one likes path finder btw, Blizzard basically regret adding flying in because it makes the zones in the game feel more empty because everyone is flying over them and not running past each other etc. Path finder was their… lets call it a solution to that problem.
I’m not sure what does that have to do with your WoW experience. After looking at a few of these (DOTA and the Battlerite thing), they’re not even similar. The amount of buttons was different, the camera perspective is different… and I’m sure there’s even more to it than that. Your skill with these games does not mean you should step into WoW and expect to do well right off the bat. There’s a learning process behind it.
Tell me… wouldn’t you call me an idiot if I went on to try DOTA, and then tried to argue there’s something wrong since I was getting destroyed despite having thousands of hours of WoW experience? If you were to call me that, you’d be right. It’s a weird mindset to have.