yes thats fine, and respect u for that but pls dont ask buffs for zug we all remember how s1 start with dhs state went when it were on retocalypse level
also im slightly weirded why u keep switch ur forum names so constant, but that is not my business but thats just weird and unnecessary
i have nothing against u personally other than u keep advocating alot on rogue nerfs which dont make alot sense concidering how things currently is if u look into statistics at the drustvar example
Because I had this bug where I couldnât switch off my priest for over 2months. I would press the select different character and nothing would happen. A friend told me to try multiple log outs and that worked.
Back to topic.
I completely agree with you. Start of S1 DH was stupid design, in fact, I was personally offended by the FOTM rerollers getting 2400 in shuffles like its nothing while making 15 mistakes per minute.
That wasnât healthy for the game.
Itâs more of an issue of how little DH was actually in a good state (not broken or underpowered) this expansion.
After S1 nerfs, it was still good, you still had meaningful damage, but you werenât one shotting people, and most of the FOTM rerollers went to play something else. It was a good time, DH was good but not broken.
Problem is, those nerfs were for a different tierset, a different crit dmg meta with less total hp.
So I say this. The Hunt hitting people for 300k when they had 400k hp bars in S1 = extremely bad for the game.
The Hunt hitting people for 70k when they have 600k+ total hp this season = also not good for the game, but only for the DH player.
for the record i dont hate melee players or have anything against you
only thing i hate is how the blizzards new lovechild shuffle has made it relatively more easyer to zug on something like fury or retocalypse example and climb their artificial rankings like this, instead if the guy would try play something like affli example or idk lets put sub or mage here as comparison then
on unorganized setting it is always easyer to play something which take less coordination than something which require ur teammates to understand ur cc setups and not dr or how to continue on some of ur cc like simple fear on trap example etc, this is the only reason that make me hate most melee currently cos they can pull this off without having to rely on team understand something
I believe in being rewarded for playing good.
I made this thread because that simply doesnât happen for DH.
If you even remotely try to deactivate your brain and pretend you are a Fury warrior and just zug zug, you will die even at the slightest tab target switch. Which is fine.
But it isnât great when your damage is completely meaningless and you have no defensive to press and are permanently forced to run away " check the clip from AWC which I linked in the original post ".
Shuffle has ruined the game in many ways, but Iâve already given my opinion about it in multiple threads.
warrior will do 60k sustain if he fails at 5 things or not, meaning using cc correct or using his kick and reflect and such
its a problem for sure when there is some other class that is not allowed to do simple mistake or he is not allowed to play the game at all by these melee if we look at what melees do to locks example
like if i played arms (because i would never touch fury) i would shockwave demo dogs instead use it start of round random on everything to dr stun for the sub in team but hey this is just shuffle things i guess
Iâll just put out a simple comparison.
To live a go as DH you have to PRE-use a Blur or Darkness. And even then you might die.
Or you have to PRE-use Glimpse. You have to read your opponent.
On Fury warrior you just have to press your Enraged Regen in a stun and spam your heals after the stun while having uptime.
On Sub rogue you donât even die when you should die (cheat death).
Enough said.
u simply cannot read
no doubt u cannot read what OP is saying
everybody playing their game, right? some play arena, some doing pet battles
https://ibb.co/3Ysb7Qg
2100
https://ibb.co/Tg8nqc5
2400
statistics are saying that classes/specs which are doing most fine are ww,war,ret,uhdk
if we buff dh to s1 states dmg wise or give it equal ammount defensives what ww now haves I imagine it skyrockets to same level with ww insta because dh dmg currently is really disruptive to deal with
Why also do i have different info from check pvp? Where is the truth?
AAAAAAAAAAARGH DH PLAYEEEEERS
BECAUSE OF THEM I CANNOT BREAK 1800 WALL
yes you failed to read correctly 3 things on this post already and top of that you also imagined that forum profiles have anything to do with peoples account details on check pvp example
but nice reflecting
u did claim i am hiding which is factually incorrect, u did claim i stated dh being omegabroken currently which also is factually incorrect and i have not said so
hence u are the one who have failed here pls stop
actually u failed, how do i know that hiding profile not hiding information from API calls and vice versa for sites like check pvp? U r claiming to be smart but monkeys pass iq test more successfully than u
It is correct, ur player profile is hidden
This userâs public profile is hidden.
What does it mean? AAAAAARGH DH PLAYERS AGAIN!!!
You donât get my point.
I am talking about single target damage.
You know how a Monk, Warrior, DK, Ret, Rogue etc pops cds and you have to press defensives in return, because itâs scary?
DH doesnât really have that.
If the aoe / dot / trash dmg which is the main dmg on details is what scares people, gut it, I donât care. We donât want to be budget Feral druids.
I would rather lose 15k overall dps and be able to kill somebody in a go than pad Details with my dots on pets.
We just want to be able to kill somebody that has made a mistake with defensive usage.
Not be in some Moonkinâs backpack to be able to push rating.
You literally do not have the class potential to carry a game. Nearly every other spec has that potential.
u are the one claiming i am hiding when i am not u can look me up from drustvar and check pvp and any other site that looks up account details I have nothing to hide, u are wrong to state so just give up nobody cares about some forum profile details of how many likes someone has given or received u are weird if u even care about that kind of information not related to arenas
not at single point have i said that dh are omegabroken, i find this boring now to explain it to u but u were the one accusing me of being bad at reading so this is bit cringe now
it looks like u are the one struggling with reading comprehension not me
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sorry hijack ur post about asking buffs for dhs Ărony it just seems some of ur kind are really bad at understanding what they read, so please continue on whatever it was that u wanted and lets ignore this one deranged dh person here making a terrible fool out of himself 
and again what exactly forum profile has to do with arenas, we are talking about arenas here
how dumb did u say u want to be when it was asked how dumb would u want to be
Itâs okay.
Just trying to make a point. Would appreciate if people can write things related to the topic instead of personal attacks on eachother
Dont bother with reasonable threads and posts in the forums, it dont lead anywhere.
This is something that I have been preached for so many years when they gutted DH survivability one by one (leech, blade dance dodge, netherwalk cd, blur 35% â 20%) and now they have absolutely nothing left but Glimpse and Blur after Netherwalk is barely obtainable anymore since it sacrifices so much damage which is already mostly just pad.
Enjoy your kill windows being a interruptable eye beam with one of the worst tier sets in the game to begin with, while Shattered Destiny is one of the most boring capstones and Essence Break is just a poor mans Warbreaker.
Im just glad I didnt bother with this class anymore since it is very clear blizzard will never take much effort into their classes that werent in launch WoW. Happened for DK, happened for Monk, happened now for DH and will undoubtfully happen for Evoker (which is horrible to begin with outside of Aug)
Thatâs the thing though.
WW monk is good now. Somewhat overtuned even.
DK is also good.
DH doesnât want WWâs numbers. But it also doesnât want the numbers of a green geared Feral druid or its way of dealing dmg (trashy dots).
S1 after nerfs it was still about your big Essence break > Blade Dance go or doing pretty decent dmg with The Hunt even after the nerfs.
That felt a lot better to know every 45 seconds you have do a good setup and a lot of burst damage. Back then Eye Beam was literally only picked so you can go into Meta form, and was played with a /cancelaura macro so you donât get kicked, you just instantly EB after.
Not to mention back then you had a 4s stun. Remember, DH stacks mastery, so your global cooldowns arenât great. These days in a 3s stun by the time you try to do anything, well, nothing happens.
You canât even Incap into Fear unless you got a bunch of haste procs because of GCD. (Yes DH doesnât have a fixed minimum of 1 second GCD like Rogues or Monks do for example).Itâs very clunky. Cause the Fear explodes after 2 seconds but using incap puts you on a roughly 1.20s GCD.
This means for example a Shaman can spam his Tremor totem button, and get it off. Or a Priest spamming Fade.
Yes, you can play the faster fear talent, which is at the literal bottom of the left tree, but then you lose aoe stun cdr and maximum resource (Fury) being 100 instead of 120, which feels bad.
In short: Talents have not been touched for forever, they need a big overhaul.
Youâll get nothing from people here, they are biased as hell.