It does look like havoc DH is struggling really hard in all aspects of the game and seemingly they got no lore or purpose after the legion got defeated for now
Iâm used to people opposing facts and logic and common sense with meaningless grief replies.
To me itâs more important if a Dev randomly sees this post. And of course the people who provide constructive feedback.
And yeah, lore wise, true. Same for DK after LK died though
Idk, apparently DKs still have a purpose due to the shadowlands, and now they are just closer to the power that the Lich king has, and they are more abundant now, right? With DHs though we just know they sacrificed everything to beat something that is gone now since Legion. Either DH needs some love, and lore progression, or the Fel should be more relevant again (not necessarily the burning legion). And yeah, DH is struggling in the entire game from M+ to raiding to pvp it seems to me based on my experience, but I know before 10.1.5 DH were absolutely broken and OP in solo shuffle. I donât know what happened
Nearly every other class receiving new spells, talents, buffs to existing ones happened.
Plus sitting on season 1 nerfs which were for a different meta, different tierset etc.
It is as you say not only lore wise DH has been forgotten as a class for over half a year now.
People meme about the 5 button spellbook. Well, would be great to get new abilities!
No. Have a new Evoker spec instead
I would rather have had a new DH spec than aug evoker bs.
Would be great!
I wanted to point out something I forgot too.
Some other specs need or needed some love as well. I canât deny that. But some of them only needed number tuning. Outlaw rogue for example has an insanely strong kit. The numbers were just low. Arguably the same for Warriors asking for buffs.
Ainât the same here. DH is the definition of clunky and requires actual changes to spells and talent nodes.
Imagine illidan coming back filled with void holding a speech in front of all current demon hunters to redirect their hatred and vengeance towards the void lords, because those are the reason that the burning legion came to azeroth. Then the demon hunters devour void walkers to become some sort of Void Debuff Support spec or something similar.
Another cool scenario would be Tyrande cleansing all the demon hunters including illidan to fill them with elunes power and reuniting with illidan, while malfurion sits in ardenweald falling for ysera or something similar. This could be a good way to bring a 3rd spec, make DH permanently relevant, and bring a story that is actually rly entertaining, and not just a snoozefest
Illidan has taught us to wait 10000 years patiently to be released from prison
Unfortunate when the lore is also class reality
Void does not fit DH at all, thats something I can say atleast x)
But it would been interesting if they could make something thats more leaning towards learnings they got after Legion got defeated.
" Jace Darkweaver, a former mage, found that the fel in his body has made arcane all but impossible to use, even though he retained the knowledge of his old spells. Despite this, Illidan himself casts spells quite often during World of Warcraft: Illidan(novel) , so it may vary from individual to individual." - Wowpedia
The only issue on this part is destro locks uses chaos dmg aswell, so not entirely sure how it would not walk into their direction with a more chaos oriented magic caster instead of fire/shadow/chaos.
As much as I love WoW lore, I still donât want to misdirect the threadâs topic too far away from the real problem.
Lots of classes received love while their lore is completely irrelevant at this point of the Dragonflight story, like paladins, so I donât want it to be any kind of basis relating to class balancing, and it isnât anyway.
Cool ideas, though.
I personally would love some kind of a rework to the Fel Barrage spell, which literally nobody plays in any form of content, since it is also channeled and the dmg is kind of whatever. But having your body spewing fel bolts out of it is pretty cool. Would be nice to be like an alternative Immolation aura.
remember they didnt do anything new for mage either till mid season 2 of the whole expansion and rogue is still waiting on its promised reworks and its only been receiving nerf after nerf since launch so far
its a trash expansion for everybody, not much class changes and only crap mode named shuffle put in to ruin the state of 2/3s for good and now instead of trying to incentive people play real arenas they go and ruin this shuffle aswell
like people said about df before launch that it looks like shadowlands vol 2 and wheres the new things in it, well this is it. its shame dh hasnt got much anything but can say the same for many other aswell
everything is kinda boring and the only mode somewhat played for pvp is circus and not worth 40min ques
i dont know how much change doing work now on class as dh then will impact the game on grand scheme of all things concidering
i think it would be like pouring water into greace fire
Well, Mage didinât need anything new in general.
Mage received like multiple new spells and a LOT of new talents in the start of the expansion.
many classes need complete rework, and needed it for df more than unpruned abilities back
Well, I just logged in to check Fel Barrage. Im questioning why its 8yards only first of all. I feel it could work more like Void Torrent for SP (personally), would still keep its flavor but would also be an interesting single target button when need it and its CD is reduced by actively fighting. Right now its pretty much dead yeah.
It would be weird but also cool in certain ways with fel being fired randomly around you instead of immo aura⌠More weird though xd
Not sure when they started promising it but they also promised it for 10.1.7 which doesnt seem to happen either xd Its rly weird.
I personally feel DF were abit rushed in terms of class/spec tree and nothing were rly looked into which can be proven by how many changes have even been done since release. So many paths they had to add, skills/spells they had to switch places with etc.
This expansion is still better than SL just due to how gearing/alt system works, but thats just personal feeling.
And I were just tired of borrowed power system.
df is just crap, i dont suspect much from any tiny tweaks at this point or ask for anything, we will see with next expansion and how microsoft will affect the game for pvp
but op is right on asking defensive buffs for dhs tho but still i think that will be like pouring water on greace fire as then we will have spec doing alot sustain and have lot of defensives to rotate, kinda like wws currently which dont even play port no more but play like warrior thanks all recent changes they received
Up this topic so that maybe eventually perhaps in a dream world where devs do their jobs, a dev will see it and actually do something (but we all know it wonât happen)
i mean, they have one spec. Obviously the class has the lowest presentation. Spec wise there are quite a few with less representation. I know DH isnt in the best best spot right now but trying to make a point with this statement makes me not want to read further.
he dies from 80 to 0 in a 4 sec incap while he is hoj against a ww/enh where the enh even uses doomwinds. Thats an obvious and normal death situation.
played quite a few boomy/dh and feels pretty good. In shuffle dh isnt that good right now though.
Thank you for the input, unfortunate that you donât want to read further.
This is why I wrote multiple examples and issues.
Glad youâre feeling good in a few Boomy/DH games though. Too bad that comp is solely reliant on the Boomkin carrying the game.
Unfortunately, itâs the only somewhat decent comp for DH and it gets destroyed by most of the meta comps on high mmr right now.
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