Disable GladiatorLosa addon ⛔

So if the addon works well and its good why would i turn it off if i had it

The best is were you cyclone some1 and 50yards in the arena the warrior spell reflects :rofl:

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In fact, i know a person, that has really problems with their Vision cause of an illnes, this addon helps her alot cause she cant really see well. She loves dooing arena, without this addon she wouldnt even be able to do arena really well. I mean, isnt it basically hearing instead of looking? Instead of having omnibar you have this addon calling used cooldowns, is basically the same just with ears instead of the eyes?

The difference is Omnibar displays information on your UI and you have to get it and use it yourself.

The other addon on the other hand tells you what to do as if you were coached. You don’t do the job. Also, most people using it just don’t understand the game, but it’s fine they don’t need to they can just obey. Why is it important to banner now and not another CC? No matter, I’ll just press because addon. This is stupid.

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Its definitely not in the same league but they serve exactly the same purpose: to let you know when someone has done something. But yeah its definitely easier to be instantly told something than to have to see it on say omnibar.

Addons are unfortunately just part of WoW now. I mean I only get half the saps in arena games because I have a combat indicator addon so I can instantly see when someone has dropped and casters are faking so often because they know when its safe to cast due to omnibar.
Its hard to know what Blizzard should actually do about it, when some addons are required for some people to play the game (e.g. due to a disability of some kind).

Not exactly. At least not in my experience or from watching high end arena players.

GladiatorLosa just straight up screams at you, telling you that the enemy just did a scary thing

Omnibar serves a different purpose. It’s much less of an alert (with the exception of interrupts) and more of a tracker. It’s far more productive in allowing you to capitalise on potential weaknesses and set up win conditions.

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Yeah okay, I can see the distinction you’re making. I think the addon should also be banned but unfortunately the two addons work in the same way so you couldn’t ban one without banning the other.

As a healer I think its a great addon so I can los sheep.

Losa should be disabeld, same with omnibar and all other combat addons.

I cant imagine any other game that would allow people to download a 3rd party program to track enemys Cds but in wow for whatever reason people are fine with that?

I think some sort of cooldown tracker should become a thing in the baseline game, to be honest. It belongs there. It’s a much needed functionality, if the 15 seconds cooldown interrupts, countless stuns/micro-cc, and defensive cooldowns are to stay.

Well the other addon actually just tells you what others are casting, if i got it right. So when you get coached, the coacher tell you, dont kick the next poly or something like that.

THe addon tells you that druids are casting cyclone, but not if you should kick that. But you also could move your enemy frame or gladius like that you also see it instantly. I dont get whats the diffrence between hearing that incarnation is casted and seeing it on omnibar, except that you see in omnibar when the cd is ready again^^

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Okay, so when WA or w/e addon shows on your monitor that a cd was used instead of telling you in your headset, you see a huge difference there? Isn’t it just eyes vs ears like Tyross said?!

Maybe I’m wrong because I haven’t used gladiatorlosa since MoP (I think) but isn’t it just telling you which cd was used?! Or did they improved it to next level so it’s telling you “use ICEBLOCK now!” etc.? :wink:

If so, I agree with what you said, if not I think “seeing” and “hearing” are pretty much on the same level.

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Losa doesn’t help you to get better at the game because all you have to do is tunnel vision and press cd when the voice tells you.
You have no awarness with this and it’s a big part of arena.

Omnibar is like said above, needed to not play terrible (for example setup something on a target that have CD Def back, we are not robots and can’t remember of every cds trade and their own cooldown remaining)
And it only gives you information on what you want (I Personnaly use only kicks and ToD/vendetta).

Personally I want to see it go.
I dislike both implemented and thirdparty features that give you training wheels. They contribute to closing the gap between somebody who’s skilled and somebody who isn’t.
From Gladius, Omnibar and BigDebuff to DH dodging from behind, Subterfuge and stances being gone.

I agree that in its current state, PvP probably wouldn’t be good without these tools though.

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The problem imo is without omnibar, big debuff and gladius(for Dr) there is no way to play correctly, you will do a lot of mistakes because you can’t remember everythings and to play correctly you need those Information.

Tbh they should atleast put Dr and kick tracker direct in the game (I don’t like add-ons myself).

Isn’t that what a lot of people ask for though? The opportuinity to punish somebody’s mistakes.

Trust me, you also can go full tunnelvision and ignore what you hear aswell^^

Idk but in my opinion, when you start banning gladiatorlos sa then you also can ban Gladius, SArena and omnibar in rated pvp. Then we all can go back to things like, he used blind the same time i used vanish, so when i have vanish back, he has also blind back.

Exactly my opinion. Either they remove the opportunity and advantage in all cases or non - because I don’t see a difference about what information you gather nor about how they are presented (screen/headset/vibrating mouse/what ever).

But since individualized UIs (addons) and personalized macros (mini addons) are one reason why WoW became the most successful mmorpg, it’s most unlikely they will remove the possibilities. Just imagine boss fights without addons like DBM… :smiley:

You didn not understand then, those add-on gives you tools, you can use it terribly when you don’t know what to do with it or you can play way better because you know how to use all the information.

Imagine playing rmx/rls/rps maybe jungle too without Dr tracker, there is no way you can setup correctly when you have no idea when drs comes out.

So if someone uses a sound addon to stop a poly cast to not waste a dr into warbanner (which was the reason for this thread) it’s a terrible usage of addons, but if you use a dr tracker to avoid a too early poly cast or stun or w/e it’s fine?

Sorry, still not getting the difference… In this examples both use addons to not waste a dr.