Dizzying Haze - Please give it back

Ever since the removal of Ox Statue/Dizzly Haze. BRM is not the same to me anymore.

Previously I had fun with it, it gave me momentum, how many packs I can pull with so many ways. BRM was the fast pace tank, it had the mobility and it had so many ways to pull the mobs.

Using Dizzying Haze always gave some satisfaction. It fit the BRM theme. Here throw that keg at those orcs and watch them get angry (High Aggro) while struggling to follow you (Slow).

The current trash is low HP? Let me put Ox statue there to prepare the next pack for attacking, or how about I pull those two mobs at the end of the room with Dizzying Haze while at it.

You did not have to go to them. They would come to you.

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You still have slow on your keg-smash, also at l120 you can have option to legsweep-slow everything near you. Or you can use statue, aggro all, slow them and then walk off.

You can use jade lighting to aggro distant groups. While the haze had good 40y range, and kegsmash is only 15y, I can just smack that one group and chi torpeedo into another. And depending from talent use the ways to round them up.

If monk wants to kite, a monk can kite. Monk cannot be reached, if monk does not want to be reached.

Keg Smash has CD. DH did not.

I don’t understand the rest of your post.

That minimal CD matters not, haze did no damage. And if you level your monk higher, you might understand it.

Haze was not about damage and it was useful in both PVP and PVE.

Did you play BRM before Legion?

If he played it he would know what level you learn at Dizzy Haze and he would not say if you level your monk higher lawl.

FYI I ditched this monk after they butchered it in Legion. This class was my favorite class of all times since I started WOW. Then Legion came and it killed all interest I had with BRM. This is how bad the job they did in Legion.

I want them to undo everything they did. That includes having back Dizzy haze.

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I did not speak about levelling up for haze, but understanding brewmaster at 120 so one would know if haze is worth missing or not.

I played monk in Pandaria SOO HC raids (later renamed to mythic), but I did not play PvP nor PVP was mentioned 1st post. In modern PvE it is not really something you’d miss too much especially mentioned in context of 1st post “pulling things and see how many you can” - this has not changed.

In Legion she was logged only for mage tower challenges and doing the mount.

In BfA my brew has almost cleared most of mythic raid short nzoth.

i remember when i was on free to play account in MoP, when i was with a friend and we were doing Hardcore Wailling Cavern, like i was monk tank and the objective is to pull EVERYTHING in the dungeon ( when i mean everything it’s realy EVERYTHING, Boss and adds included) and the objective was to nuke all of this by dps and no one should die.

With that spell it was SOOO MUCH FUUUNNN :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Badly today dungeons is a competitive content and it would be totally boken as hell that monk tank can pull everything without taking damage and slow ennemy.

If we were back in the day i could do this all day, even at the point to abandon PvP. but time as changed and so it’s not compatible with our time.

Can you imagine MDI or M+ in general with this ? :crazy_face:

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I understand what you are saying but in MOP BRM was very OP at start, but I assure you it was not because this spell. In fact, if that was their concern I am sure they can easily solve it.

FYI in MOP/WOD we had competitive dungeon contents.

Like what ? Challenge mode was not same as M+ and in most CMs you had blood dk on the title runs. Least on more competitive realms.

Also your point really makes no sense - if you want to pull whole dungeon as monk and kite, you still can.

I am 120, doing M+ all the time/ The answer yes it is worth missing especially if you are dungeonhead…

Why do I want it back?
1 Iconic BRM pull
2 Much wider range than keg and no cooldown
3 it was our destiny

This probably is most plausible reason… Let me (zen) meditate on it for a while.

Do not get me wrong - I am all for the weird stuff doing comeback, just I did not buy the 1st post explanation for it.

On personal level I miss on my monk my celestials. Where’s my ox, where is my tiger, where is my crane … or maybe crane is there, since I have not been misweaver since fistweaving no longer was competitive dps.

They need to bring it back, let them remove snares if they worries them too much.

Right now BRM an iconic pull. Either that or remove CD from Keg Smash.

Statements such as that are why WoW devs look at the EU forums and just shake their head.

Dizzying Haze was great, but it wasn’t the messiah you’re making it to be. You can still do the same stupid pulls with brewmaster that you could do with dizzying haze, you just have to play a fair bit better.

I find introducing a lower range cooldown ability that punishes you for not hitting all the mobs if you plan on pulling and kiting entire instances is a much better iteration than a no cd aoe slow on 40 yards range.

Is it more difficult? Of course it is. I personally like it more that way though.

What Brewmaster needs desperately is a rework, not a long range aoe slow, fingers crossed the whole Shadowlands Shuffle works out, because as it is, Brewmaster is mind bogglingly easy and thus in return a fair bit boring, already.

Respect yourself first and then respect me when replying if you want me to even read that.

The forums were made for people to express their opinion. If you don’t like that don’t reply. I don’t like aggressive replies nor I waste my time reading them.

I’m respecting myself. And you as well. That includes me pointing out statements such as “remove the CD from the ability that reduces your brews CDs by 4 seconds and is your main source of damage already” as stupid.

If you feel offended by that, I’m genuinely sorry, but some statements need to be called out as what they are. A bad idea, in this case.

But you waste your time replying to them anyway? A bit of a hypocrite aren’t we?

I’m not saying anything against your opinion, I’m just stating that your idea of removing keg smash CD indicates that you do not have the proper knowledge to make valuable feedback.

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because you are noob

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