Are really good at the game or are they just r1 because they are playing the most broken spec/comp?
I feel like there is only few people with an insane skill like loony/whazz/pikaboo or blizo but I feel like the other in general are just there because of how broken their spec are and are just getting carried despite doing a lot of mistakes and questionable things.
What do you think?
Everything will be viewed differently as broken by subject of the fact for a mmorpg to feel exciting in PVP everything has to play differently which does end up boiling down to some classes simply performing better than others.
Naturally alot of people won’t deserve the placement in PVP that they get whether it be class, carried or paid for it but alot of players generally will climb by hook or by crook simply by play time. So you will find that theres going to be alot of people you queue into with bordering 50-55% win/loss ratio, its a shame that gladiator mounts right now are being ruined and given out to anyone who plays meta in 3’s and wins 50 games over 2400 but oh well–this company is digging itself into the ground anyway and the further with each expansion implemented, the less of a gap you’ll see between actual good players and casuals
afterall: mechanical prowess/skill of the class doesn’t matter when 40+% of your damage is procs, trinkets, corruptions, essences. 
and when we go into SL alot of these classes are going to feel -awful- to play if they recieved any changes during BFA cause of temp systems.
I think a lot of talented players could appear if there would be less farming and rng
Many play the same comps and spec’s on lower rating. So no, it’s not just because of spec/comps.
Yeah, and even though there appears to be differences between r1 players and such, with some playing at the “top of the top” while others are struggling just to stay up there, it’s also the only real metric to follow in order to get an idea of who might climb up there to the “top of the top”-level next.
Although, the gameplay design itself relies too heavily on passive effects, so the skill differences between a 0.5% player (old glad) to a 0.1% player (r1) isn’t really as clear as it used to be.
Still leaves a lot of people beneath them though, so at least there’s that.
Who cares, its a videogame. But if some players makes $ by playing favorite game its pretty nice. But tho tryhard is pretty meh.
If you managed to get there through climbing then you’ve deserved it, regardless of spec, comp and when you get it. I think it’s straight up insane that some people have this mentality that you haven’t deserved something just because it’s your first time getting there or you’re not as good as people that get R1 literally no matter the state of the game.
To say you didn’t deserve a title because you didn’t get it with enh, affli, demo, MM etc. and in less than 250 games is just nuts.
Of course, all of this doesn’t apply if you’re a DH 
You can spot the really good in their class and the rerollers.
Many call Bajheera a bad player but admit it since he started his warrior in cata he never changed it.
And yet he is 2.7k.
And there are players that hit higher rates but they change into FOTM classes/comps.
They are good too.
Ngl I wasted 2 years hoping for changes.
Last time I’m going to play a meme spec just for approval and to avoid “Destro player” comments
No offense, OP, but you are not even close to r1 yourself… like me btw, but you cry about r1 being unfair? wtf xD
I’ve never said r1 was unfair, just saying a lot of people got title only by abusing the most broken spec/comp while à lot of with à real skill can’t get it because of the trash balance.
I’m not the only one wondering that tbh, à lot of time on stream or on forum I’ve seen people saying for example tren is not a really good player but just dh is completely out of this world.
I mean even at low rating you can see people pré wall go or like myself pré fade à kidney or pre MD à cc but I’m not even close to r1 like you said.
They are playing the most broken specializations and compositions the best. 
With some exceptions of course. There have been quite a few rank 1 title given out to people who just played the right combo at the right time.
But I am currently watching a returning paladin on twitch for example. He was playing yesterday an average comp on 2,200 mmr. Right now he is playing mlp at 2,700 mmr. That should answer your question right away.
Been that way since the start of time, will never change. There are way too many people with rank1 that shouldn’t even be close to gladiator, especially since they changed how titles work.
Maybe, but people also tend to overestimate how good they are and a perfect example for that is this forum. Also the general mindset of pvpers is often flawed, never looking for mistakes in their own gameplay and trying to blame their comp or, even worse, their teammates for everything.
Because that doesn’t (or shouldn’t) make you a rank1 player? There is way more to it usually. But to be fair, BfA Season4 is probably the worst season yet. We face a lot of RMP/ala (basically only…) and so many times we wonder how these people managed to get above 2500, let alone 3k +.
In the end its not worth to think about it, even before they changed the title requirements a lot of rank1s were questionable thanks to dogsht realmpools, sharing and/or 5v5. You can only tell how good someone is if you face them a few times, so it really doesn’t matter what title they show. D:
Or rmx or destro
Nah, having melee cleaves running around being immortal thanks to passive tank trinkets were way worse.
People can complain how much they want about r/m or fire mage/destro teams, but it still takes more effort than a season where tank trinkets were mvp’s of the teams.
If spec or comp is really the reason for the difficulty to push rating there’s nothing that prevents one to get some gear for the fotm spec and see how that goes. See if skill is really the reason.
Sure, there might be some rating gained, but how much?
Enough to get some 2.7 (or wherever rating is required to be considered good)?
Also remember many old R1 got their title by cheesing 5s.
The more cringe r1 are bfa s1 and s4 due to massive inflation. 3400rating player my a$$
A rogue can die, but not sure about the mlx part. They have passive tank and swifty trinkets in their class design included.
The inflation does not change the 0.1% rule.
??? how does that makes sense? Have R1 players access to classes other players dont? They play the exact same game as anyone. R1 and especially tournament players are at their level for YEARS. They are just better at the game.
Hereby I want to apologize for abusing shadow priest
You stupid??
Theres a diderence from a r1 when a season had 10.000 amd a season with 100.000.
Percentage wise is the “same” but the amount within the percentage is very much dif.
PM if you need math lessons.