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The extra attack can generate Rage, yes. It works like a free auto attack.
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It procs pretty often at the same time as the HoJ trinket as well, from what I’ve seen thus far. Got OEB a few weeks ago and been arms ever since.
Not sure what OEB is… but yeah it seems to proc reasonably often, I’d say, around 5% of the time 
OEB = Obsidian Edged Blade.
HoJ trinket = Hand of Justice trinket.
What I said was that they seem to proc at the same time quite often, which means it results in 2 extra hits from one attack instead of just one extra.
It pretty much looks like a windfury proc.
Oh, nice sword. I see what you mean. I’m surprised they proc together that often 
I never said how often they proc, I just said that quite often when they do proc, they proc at the same time. Not always, but quite often.
Doesn’t proc as often as a windfury totem. But you can spam hamstring to make all of this stuff proc more per minute.
So together with a wf totem, it’s a pretty strong build. Relies quite heavily on that wf totem though, for single target fights. Arms is a cleave spec after all.
(In other words, you’re better off playing a 2h fury spec rather than the arms sword spec if you’re alliance. Horde ftw.)
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Spamming Hamstring is that a viable method of playing?
And I intend to stay Arms… ! But prefeably have an axe so I can have 5% Crit chance.
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You’re not supposed to use mortal strike or rend in raids, they eat up a debuff slot. So yeah, as an arms warrior, you’re forced to spam stuff that doesn’t eat a debuff slot. Deep wounds is ok, but rend and MS are not really allowed.
Told you, it’s a cleave spec. That’s why horde is better for arms warriors, since you can still compete dps-wise with hamstring and a wf totem. You’re better off playing as 2h fury with bloodthirst and slam, which doesn’t eat debuff slots, on the alliance side.
Isn’t Heroic Strike a lot stronger than Hamstring, though?
Also how many debuff slots are there on bosses / mobs in 40 man raids? I haven’t raided in classic.
yes, just like windfury (kinda why I prefer horde warriors btw, extra rage is so fun)
you use harmstring in pve if you’re horde to fish for windfury procs, so essentially you have one more button to use if you’re horde as a warrior. You’ll be swimming in rage either way later on as warriors start getting more and more gear.
Heroic strike overwrites the auto-attack, a.k.a. the white swing. So you don’t generate rage from that. The use of heroic strike is also limited to your weapon swing timer, so with a proper speed on the weapon then you’re doing nothing but standing around waiting for the swing for several seconds.
Hamstring doesn’t overwrite the white hit, so you still generate rage from the white hit while spamming hamstring.
You can still dump some rage with heroic strike, and you can keep using hamstring with heroic strike queued. But as mentioned, you don’t generate any rage from that. There’s no delay on the swing if you try to activate abilities such as heroic strike or cleave, close to the next white swing, so I wouldn’t recommend queuing them tbh.
Also, you can stand in bers stance and dump rage with whirlwind instead, which also doesn’t overwrite the white swing. There’s no extra threat from it either. You also get the +3% crit from the bers stance as well, however you still need to go back to battle stance for the overpower procs, but it’s more of a balancing act of when you should.
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Heroic strike generates extra threat, so keep that in mind. 2-handers already generates a lot of threat when critting, as they are.
2h fury is better for alliance warrs, compared to arms. Much better. (In raids, that is.)
Hamstring over heroic strike for alliance? You what?
On horde it sure is, not so much on alliance.
Windfury wnables us to get huge chunks of rage, if you have too much rage you can fit in hamstrings to try and proc windury.
Who said that when? I just said you’ve gotta find a balance, and watch the aggro. WW>Heroic strike for dumping rage as arms. That’s obvious.
You still shouldn’t go arms as alliance in raids though. 2h fury outperforms it on the alliance side.
Yeah, you what? Read.
It’s just to “fish” for procs, whether it be limited to only the sword spec+HoJ trinket procs, or both of them + the wf totem.
Either way, you still can’t spam heroic strikes nonstop in raids, even as alliance. Due to the high threat gen and the way it affects rage gen. You still use hamstring as a filler, even as alliance, since heroic strike is limited to the weapon swings, and you still need to keep an eye on the rage gen vs. rage spent per second.
Hamstring still deals damage outside of the weapon swings and doesn’t affect it, the same as whirlwind. Even. As. Alliance.
This is just single target though, arms is essentially a cleave spec anyway so it doesn’t do as well single target as it does when cleaving. That’s true for both horde and alliance. It’s just that it does so much worse on the alliance side where it doesn’t have a wf totem, compared to horde. So it’s better to go 2h fury on the alliance side, when compared to arms.
You can still go arms on the horde side though, thanks to the wf totem, without losing to 2h fury, Which is also due to the sword spec.
If you go with anything other than the sword thec as arms then 2h fury still outperforms arms as horde, in pve.
(Just to clarify it, in case it wasn’t clear already, is that the usage of abilities as mentioned in this thread is limited to the arms spec hitting a single target. You can go check a random guide if you wanna know how to play as 2h fury, which is better than arms in raid environments on the alliance side.)
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