DOTI Fall trash around second boss? Explain the damage please

M+ fall around the second boss, it seems like even on tyrannical all the trash there puts dots on dps ticking for like 400k every second?? Like i literally dont understand where the insane damage is coming from? People are just dying left and right on this trash while the rest of the dungeon is completely fine…

A dps got Bloom debuff on him from the Anomaly dog mob or what ever tf it is and the icon looks like the jaws of a shark. Even a 485ilvl mistweaver monk channeling soothing mist and putting up enveloping mist and spamming vivify couldnt outheal it (not even fortified btw).

Someone explain this to me please

Bloom goes to 2 players, 1 the tank and 2 another player. It is a dispell mechanic and since the tank will live bloom the non-tank needs to be dispelled. Allthough you probably will see the bloom debuff first on the tank.

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and if healer is busy dispelling afflicted??? which he is

Well that is the thing. The healer should not do afflicted. It is a non healer affix. The healer has other dispell priorities. Your example exactly shows why it isn’t a healer affix. Good luck also on timeways (the boss you are waking up there) with a healer doing afflicted :joy:

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Get your dps to dispel afflicted instead

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Tight there! :smiley: That hit the spot.

Ask the DPS to do it. Or, have the dps with offheal capacities to top it up.

I personally dont care. The affix is dealt by my totems. I dont even have to target them. And FYI, ANY shaman can. Not just RShamans…

So I guess Enh and RSham are meta this week? :smiley:

There is a ton of damage there. So the Bloom is just 1 mechanic. But there are others. Basic guidelines:

In that room you have Dogs (bloom) and big elementals (that also have a dispell mechanic). 1 patroling, one at the left door as you walk into the room. Your tank CANNOT pull 2 of those mobs (dog and/or elemental) at a time. Your healer does not have enough dispells to deal with both mechanics.

The mini-dogs cast some ST nuke that needs to be interrupted. So you cant pull 5 dogs because you need 5 interrupts. And falure to interrupt a mini-dog means 1 dead person.

There are also elementals that spawn infront of every door. Those put a dot (Corrupted Sand) that cant be dispelled and need to be ST healed. And that also hits for a truckload.

If your tank is overlly exited and pulls too much, it quickly becomes unhaelable. You need to take it slow there. You got time to do it anywais so… :slight_smile:

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It’s a healer affix, there just happen to be some tanks and DPS that can assist. Especially when you have rsham it’s a healer affix.

Only requires 1 dispel and in a bad overlap if both players use a defensive and stand still when they go off, it’s all good.

*Laughs in rogue* sure I’ll do it

In the scenario the OP is in the healer can not do it. The healer sometimes can assist, that is true. And sure a resto shaman can do a lot of them, but that is not only resto, it is all shamans.

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That’s because it’s a badly designed affix. Healers are the only role that consistently have heals and dispels, so it’s obviously designed to be primarily for healers with the ability to take specs that can assist. It’s disingenuous to say it’s not a healer affix when literally the entire mechanic is designed around healers.

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Healers dont have consitently heal and dispell available. It is not that healers are never pressing a heal button and wait till now afflicted is there and heal it. Healers have their buttons unavailable and the group needs healing full time too. While for dps it only cost a bit of dps to dispell or off heal them. When healers are going to deal with them you risk wiping. It is even easier on a ret paladin than a holy paladin.

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While I don’t disagree with that, it’s not how DPS and Tanks play. Healers play whack’a’frame, dps and tank do not.

When you have your dispell bound you just click on the afflicted and press your dispell ability. Same thing as targetting other mobs. Not sure why only healers have the skill to change targets. It is now time to learn, i suppose :dracthyr_shrug:

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Good luck selecting a mob that is hidden behind a wall or spawns inside or just behind a big mob such as a dragon :slight_smile:

That is for the healer exactly the same. We do not get more unit frames as healer for afflicted.

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Healers get the majority of them, however twisted tineways trash afflicted is 100% a DPS / tank job. Healer has their hands full.

imagine calling it a healer affix when the healer only have 1 dispel and there are spawning mostly 2 at the same time.
some healers, priest and rshaman can deal with both quite easily, while shaman is the only one who can deal with it when they are also busy with fat dmg going out on the group

DOTI in general needs attention from dps to help with the affix and BRH before the boss also requires assistance.
If dps do not understand that, they are just bad players. Your RIO doesn’t even matter for that considering you could have gotten that on other times your just got carried by better players that are actually playing for the team and not only dps meters.

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There’s this thing called “heals”, which every healer has a ton of, and can be used to heal the affix to full health.

It’s a terrible affix, poorly designed, and just sucks to play. Doesn’t change the fact that entirety of the affix is around a healer toolkit.

Single target heals of off heal classes are bigger than those of the healer. It is an alternative way to get rid of them. And in the OP’s example the healer is actually trying to keep the group alive. You do not want to have the healer 5+ seconds not healing the group. A ret paladin needs like 1 Word of Glory to full heal an afflicted. The healer needs 3-4 globals. It is exactly not designed around the healers toolkit.

Says the player who hasn’t done this dungeon on high tyrannical/afflicted.

This is the difference between good dps and tanks and bad dps and tanks.

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It’s a pointless distinction. Paladin dps and tanks have heals, so do shaman dps, druids etc etc.

Myopically calling it a “healer” affix is why Johnny bad skim reads a thread and then can’t get an 18 done because it never occurred to him to talent a dispel or set up a group capable of success because people on the internet keep parroting “healer affix”.