Is this dungeon overturned now? Doesn’t feel like +10, feels like +20 or +10 in the current season.
We tried to do with group 470-490 ilvl, everyone got one shot from the first puddles from the boss… (not the one that tank has to soak). Pretty crazy for 493 loot 
No it is fine. The difficulty is spot on. If you find the normal mode difficult you must see the Hard mode. It is awesome.
You have to remember there isn’t a timer. You have all the time in the world to try.
It’s not normal to get one shot from first mechanic on first boss(the one that give pools to every person and you have to drop it) when you are 470-490. Im talking about mythic 0. And the aoe doesn’t hit as +10. How the difficulty is spot on if people get one shot from the puddles? That is not the difficulty for 493 loot.
In S2 it gave loot for like +16. Btw I did it in S2 and I know the difficulty.
Go and do the dungeon and then write please.
If hard mode should be like +10 then they should give hero gear
I did try it on HM and I can say it was reasonable difficult. We were not getting one shot neither from Sand Stomp nor Withering Sandpool.
The only thing which will one shot you is Eon Fragments if you are hit by all of them at the same time the moment bolts spawn.
Sheared Lifespan is a bit risky for the tank. But it is doable.
The only problem we had was the damage. We were lacking it. So we couldn’t kill the 1st boss on HM. So tonight we will do the normal mode.
So IF HM was OK for us then Normal is even easier. And yes I will finish the whole dungeon tonight.
What ilvl you all were? Hard mode supposed to be as current m0 or it should not? I’m not looking the ability name but I’m not talking about small one that tank has to soak. I’m talking about the first sand puddles. We all got one shot but tank. 470-490 ilvl.
How that difficulty is fine for 493 loot???
I’m not talking about normal, I’m talking about hard mode all the time 
you also didn’t kill the boss, yet saying that it’s fine. Did you finish other m0s? That give you 493?..
In S2 it was giving hero loot, hard mode. Since only in S3 it came to rotation of dungeons.
Hardmode was always hardmode. M0 is tuned to M+10, so hardmode is probably like an old +20. Very possible you get 1 shot here or there.
It’s possible something changed or just could be you do not have enough of versa stats… I did it on HM on day 1 and I got hit by a puddle that a dps dropped on me as a healer. I lost 50% of my health and torpedo the hell of out it. I I was 484 ilvl but then I pack a ton of versatility.
As for the difficulty I thought it was nicely tuned, some easy 493 gear even for those that don’t push keys. Just a pity you can only do it once a week.
If we talk about HM specifically as it drops Hero gear track you must be 493 and higher
LFR unlocks at ilvl 463 so for Normal mode Doti I’d say everything under ilvl 470 will be bad.
So it’s hero loot? In adventure guide shows 493
Yes. And the last boss when you do not have a death i think it is mythic.
ilvl 493 is the normal mode yes. Groups with 484 ilvl should be fine in my opinion.
Yes on Hard Mode it has a chance to drop 493 ilvl loot,
You sure about this ? I did it on HM and got 493. There was also a wowhead post saying NM was bugged and to go farm it as it was dropping 493. This was hotfixed in minutes.
See the table published for M0
I may be wrong so tonight I will see it.
How hard mode can give only 493 loot? It’s awful
I am pretty sure i saw an article hardmode rewards hero loot. I even talked about it with a friend-tank yesterday evening it maybe worth it to run doti since it has a cheat death trinket.
In S2 it was giving hero loot, and lots of it. This is why I thought the difficulty will be same as current m0s if it drops 493…
I just checked my wrist it says Champion on it and I did upgrade them to 502 and they can max go 515.
Just found out from a guy who did it, 509 from all bosses except the last one. Last one gives mythic gear. He said the difficulty is like +12 and he was getting one shot in 480
You have to remember that not only is it a +10 equivalent to last season we are not equivalently geared, or at least most people aren’t.
So it’s going to feel tougher to complete week 1 than it will in say 3 weeks time.
Also there is hardmode and regular. That also has an impact.