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[Hexelyion-aggramar (Hexelyion)]

@Niakris-turalyon

Any Horde caster would’v killed for VElfs recial especially in PvP.

Or in any type of raid wide damage.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

@Brilho-frostmane

Shadow meld is one of the best, if not the best, pvp racial.

It’s also been very popular in M plus.

You can also pot again using the racial because it drops you out of combat.

[Alumage-draenor]

@anon97840588

It’s still a issue, even if it doesn’t end up being racials that caused it.
Players are technically just punshing/forcing people to transfer to horde killing alliances endgame playerbase, sooner or later there’s no reason to even roll alliance anymore besides story content.

I am not saying there isn’t a problem, cause i know alliance have it rough, i have played alliance a bit, i do see the struggle.
The point is that there is no good solution, outside of allowing cross play.

Cause if you put something so great on ally side that competitive horde players move, then either you make it short term, and then they end up just transfering back right after they get it, as we have seen before, or you make it long term and then the imbalance is just to alliance side and you have not fixed the problem, you have just created a new one.

[Alumage-draenor]

@Retributor-draenor

Barely better isn’t enough. Should be much better to force horde scum raiders to reroll to righteous alliance

Probably trolling, but if not then you’re clearly not able to take a logical approach to a discussion and think with your feelings. That is not constructive and has no place in suggestions for changes in the game.

[Retributor-draenor (Retributor)]

This is a thread not a corporate meeting by 9/10 horde devs

[Dejarous-draenor (Dejarous)]

I always picture a new player reading your whiny defeatist posts and thinking “Yup, horde it is”

[Retriscorned-draenor]

@Alumage-draenor

you’re clearly not able to take a logical approach to a discussion

that is commonly known.

[Alumage-draenor]

@Landrien-turalyon

This is ironic coming from a Troll, the best DPS race in the game for most specs.

Not gonna lie, i did pay for a race change to get troll when i started playing higher level, but in the end it is only a 1% increase, but when i did it, it was because in the mage opener you had, at the time, an unfortunate occurence where if you got 0 procs and no crit in your pre bracers opener you would have to wait 0.5s for bracers, which is not worth, but with troll you could get it to around 0.2s, which is worth.
It was mostly just for that, and i am not gonna pay to move back to another spec now that it isn’t a problem anymore.

I tallied up the top 3 races for every dps spec in the game, troll is the best for 5/24 specs.
Human was best for 9/24, so there you go.

@Landrien-turalyon

It was the reason why many high end guilds changed to Horde in the past, and most of the guilds bellow followed for better recruiting.

Never said racials never were a problem, cause they definitely were, but they aren’t anymore, which is what the poster claimed.

I know what happened, i even said you play horde for the recruitment side of it.

[Retributor-draenor (Retributor)]

There are no new players, and if there are they aren’t browsing the forums

[Dejarous-draenor (Dejarous)]

Citation needed.

With shadowlands there could be people curious and browsing. Keep sending em to the horde

[Retributor-draenor (Retributor)]

Hehe so funny and sarcastic hehe

[Sinaaki-argent-dawn]

Funny thing is that he told me that he mains horde on another account. Makes this whole «horde bias persona» just look weird tbh.