Dracthyr kirin tor?

From seeing that blue dragons are masters of arcane magic and spend a lot of their time researching magic. Do you thing the dracthyr that are closer to the blue dragonflight will be seen in that sort of area?

Don’t see why not. We’ve seen Dracthyr take on Bronze Dragonflight duties or simply become civillians and become fishermen.It’s safe to assume you could go and make a Dracthyr Kirin Tor.
Whole shtick is them finding their own individual purpose after all.

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And the Aspect of Magic is also on the ruling council of the Kirin Tor, is he not?

If Blue Dragons are members of the Kirin Tor, I can’t see why Drakthyrs wouldn’t want to!

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Personally I would wait for mage becoming available for Dracthyr, but as for the race itself, why not?

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I think it is totally viable if your Dracthyr swings that way. Above me are some strong arguments for it.

Be prepared to for your colleagues to pluck you for reagents however.

:pensive: the hardest challenge we as rpers face is standing before the question
“Should I do this?”
And answering “no” to your own question, concept.

Consider that there’s not a single Kirin tor dracthyr. You would stand out as awkwardly as the blizzard vulpera Kirin tor NPC’s

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Kalecgos really padding that resume

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I think that while a dracthyr as a member of the Kirin Tor isn’t something that’s directly shown, the qualities that sort of character would need in order to apply for membership are very much shown within dracthyr IMO.

They presumably don’t care much for the faction war and Horde/Alliance loyalty is probably uncommon amongst them, so neutral organisations would definitely appeal to them more, as mentioned previously the aspect of magic is on the council and it makes sense for dracthyr to follow the aspects to some extent, and we do see them around the isles doing typically studious things.

Even if we don’t see a dracthyr in the kirin tor, I think a dracthyr who’s views allign similarly to people in the Kirin Tor and thus works adjacent to the organisation isn’t too far out of the question.

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Working adjacent vs wearing the tabard as a member of the organisation.

I do think that nameless NPC’s are the best examples of what we as RPers should or could be. That is to say, they populate the world in the same way as RPers do. If you become more unique than that you’re on a different level. There’s nothing in lore that says dracthyr couldn’t be Kirin Tor. But there’s not a single Kirin Tor dracthyr. You feel me?

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We’ve seen every playable race excluding the dracthyr in the Kirin Tor at this point, so they seem to take any magically inclined or scholarly type
 So knock yourself out.

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Good lord, no.

Dracthyr are, as evokers, their own unique class.

The Kirin’tor is for Magi, and while the Dracthyr do have arcane traits and powers - they are not Magi - their powers are innate rather than learned, furthermore they possess skills and powers well outside the purview of the Kirin Tor. You may as well say Hunters can be Kirin Tor because of Arcane shot, or Paladins because they have a mana bar.

Yes it could be argued Kalec is a member of the council of six, but he’s also a full fledged dragon (Not a Dracthyr) and he’s as different to them as they are to mages. Whats more, he’s the aspect of magic, the arcane, not the other areas that fall under the domains of the Aspects.

No, there’s very literally no basis to view any Dracthyr as Kirin Tor in lore - what’s more there is no reason to assume they would or could, as the Violet Citadel is led by and for Mages of the Arcane, Not Evokers who use the varied dragon magics of the aspects.

These are two different classes/castes that do two very different things, even if there is a minor overlay due to the blues.

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All Evokers are Dracthyr, but not all Dracthyr are Evokers.

As was said above, we’ve seen Dracthyr explore all sorts of varied roles and join myriad factions. There’s nothing to say one can’t train with, and ultimately join the Kirin Tor.

And if we look at those Vulpera examples, it’s been about 5 or 6 years since they left Vol’dun? That’s more than enough time for a few magically inclined individuals to complete the adequate training. Those NPC’s seemed to be inductees too? Or not so far from it.

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Oh you’re entirely right.

But Vulpera could always be mages, and those Vulpera mages used arcane magics and joined the Kirin tor.

Dracthyr, as far as my character select screen indicates, can only be evokers. Evokers are not mages and as the character selection indicates


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‘Draconic spells’, not Arcane. While I sympathize that right now they cannot yet be mages, and that they lack a class hall of their own, this sort of thing opens up the strange and curious world of cross-class faction hall concepts. Paladins in the Ebon blade, priests in the Black Harvest and sneaky rogues serving Odyn in the halls of valor.

It doesn’t add up.

It would be doable but I would wager too early yet. Even Kalecgos had to fight off multiple events and situations before the Kirin Tor would accept him. As well, you would have to be of the magical arts and connections, which I am not sure Evoker and their genetic connection to the Dragon’s powers would count as such? It isn’t impossible but too soon, I would say
 then again, I’ve met Dracthyr who already claim to be member of Twilight’s Hammer


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You legitimately meet a gazillion non-Evoker dracthyr on the Dragon Isles

BUT, for the sake of those who don’t want to research before they post their headcanon:

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Edict:_Evoker

All dracthyr aren’t evokers. They are shown to be many classes, including magi and rogues. The Sundered Flame, for example, are mostly shown to be magi. Evokers are rare inside the dracthyr as per flavor text in the intro.

Having said that, I’d hold my horses on the Kirin Tor thing. It wouldn’t fit much as of now.

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When you originally save them pre-name change, I believe they have elite magi NPCs.

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Headcannon would be Kirin Tor Dracthyr.

Can you select a Mage Dracthyr on the select screen? Can your Dracthyr cast Polymorph?

While it’s novel to do the whole classy jumpy, wumpy things, if you can’t actually do it then you’re just opening up the same lame can of under developed worms as when they introduced Tauren mages - granted they wanted you be able to play it, and the option is now there. But previously our bovine friends had some lame explanation along the lines of


“Oh, I can do magic now” - that was it. Thankfully it has now been drastically improved. But this sounds like the same old “I want this race to be ‘x’ class and have all the other benefits” shtick. Which explains the twilights hammer Dracthyr, and the pregnant, void egg laying Dracthyr, and the warrior-evoker Dracthyr.

As for the headcannon, that address you linked literally has ‘fandom’ in it’s URL.

Got an official source?

OOC class =/= IC class

Also, the point is that non evoker dracthyr exist in lore. Regardless of what we can or cannot play.

Because it’s maintained by fans? They tend to site their official sources.

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And they have spoken, apparently.