Again, ironic considering you’ve done nothing but act offended because I don’t agree with your view of the game.
Because most people have grown up and don’t have the time to argue about lore points anymore probably.
Because Blizzard are lazy.
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Maybe next time, you shouldn’t write off your opinion as fact and talk down on other people who like something you find mediocre.
What’s this supposed to mean exactly?
It means exactly what it says. There’s less people playing the game overall, most of the people still playing are in their 20s and 30s and don’t have the time to sit and argue on the forums or discuss the lore.
Practice what you preach.
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What is there to practise. The lore forums are dead, people are less interested in lore. You even said it was mediocre.
Are you saying here that Dragonflight isn’t that popular or
I’m saying exactly what I typed - that the game has less people playing now than it did a decade ago. I really don’t understand your attempts at putting words into my mouth because the stuff you quote isn’t exactly a hint or really even that vague.
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You know, if you don’t like it…
Lore has always been trash though.
I joined WoW in late 8.2 in BFA.
So i have no rose tinted glasses or heavy nostalgia clouding my opinion.
WoW’s story telling in the past was simple small stories, nothing fancy, subpar at best.
I’ll even say FFXIV has a better overall story, besides it’s occasional typical wierd japanese eye rolling moments.
WoW discussions have gone to other places.
r/warcraftlore is an example, that’s my go to place.
Besides that, yeah the forum is dying, it’s mostly the same posters.
Everything is negativity, why would you even stay here?
Discord communities, reddit simply does a better job and we can talk to the US players as well on there.
Personally i’ve also had far more positive engagements on discord and reddit than here on this forumboard of miserable and negative neckbeards
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Man it’s okay if you only joined recently but did you even try to read upon the lore of the RTS games atleast? Because holy hell, what a take is that.
No, the RTS is literally ancient games made before i was even born.
Had no interest in those games.
I’m speaking of what is presented in the game. Which at best is subpar storytelling.
Then there is the books, comics, old RTS lore. But if that isn’t presented in the game. It might as well not exist to the majority of people.
I only know WoW’s lore through the game. And it’s lackluster.
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most of the story is in the quest description but I’m guessing if you’re calling the RTS games ancient that you’re just following arrow on the map
But if you’re talking about DF and SL and such, I agree
The lore is garbage, but completely avoidable this time around - so it’s a massive improvement over shadowlands.
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what do you mean it’s avoidable in the sense that SL wasn’t?
Having a linear story where i had to constantly wait on NPC’s that would not stop talking.
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I personally think the lore and story of Dragonflight so far is slightly worse than Shadowlands upon its release. And I consider Shadowlands the lowest of the low.
I hope Blizzard has some aces hidden up their sleeves, so to speak. If not, then I think the penny is going to drop for a lot more people soon, once that initial excitement and hype has waned off.
That it’s not very good. 
There’s a quaint little plotline with Odin and Tyr, the waters in Tyrhold, the creation of the Dragon Aspects, and everyone learning the truth and their subsequent reactions. But there’s not much at stake, so…
I kind of hope Blizzard have some curveballs, but I also hoped that with The Jailer and his plans, and look how that turned out. 
I’m not overly optimistic, and I duly note that others seem mostly ambivalent, writing concerns off on the notion that lore and story can be ignored, and at least there’s no borrowed powers, and they only play Arena anyway, and so forth.
Some like it, for sure. But the engagement isn’t there like it was with Garrosh, Sylvannas, Illidan, Jaina, or any other of these characters whose actions have gotten people very emotional and invested in the story and produced many great discussions on the forums.
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I think you join rompuche and Vinzora in most alts used in a day Asjon. No matter how many chars you post on saying the same thing does not make it true.
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Players just quit.
@Daelinna/@Arctur
@Northgrave
Used to be hardcore Alliance fans, but the discussions died out.
@Zarao got disappointed with how the Horde campaign ended during BFA, he loved Forsaken lore and Sylvanas. He played SL but didn’t seem him since.
@Zakaru a Troll fan, was also disappointed with how BFA handled the Trolls especially the Zandalari. King Rastakhan story for example. Also inconsistencies regarding his interpretations Vs what he was told by Alliance players regarding events in world quests during BFA. How Blizzard was not handling well Rokhan.
This is a topic I created back in 2019, when BFA was still active. @Aster, the BE Paladin level 50, posting it, is my main in another account.
From the players taking part in this discussion @Araphant and @Halasibel quit due to this:
“My team believes that continuity exists to enhance a story, not to tie the hands of creators” - Sean Copeland, Historian Supervisor.
After this you could no longer thrust in anything. As everything could be retconned.
I also remember a Pyromancer a YouTuber who loved WoW lore and Sylvanas, quitting it. Here’s the video of him raging;
The US is the main story forum, for obvious reasons.
If they find more interesting Twitter, than probably you already found the problems
I spent the entire BFA expansion ranting about BFA and why I hated it, as I considered it a disgrace for the Horde.
I probably spent more time on the story forums than playing. I won’t do that again as my patience ran out.
Next faction War, I will simply stay out.
BFA was just bad. People complain about the expansion that made them quit.
Try one that destroys any moral ground your faction has left. That was BFA for me.
After looking where exactly this new generation of authors are coming from and what exactly is their agenda, I just don’t bother.
For me it’s a systematic problem.
Look at:
- Star Wars.
- Marvel.
- Everything related to Disney
- Warhammer.
- Magic the Gathering.
- Feel free to add more.
WoW is just another franchise amongst many, where fans are not aligned with the writers 
Honestly I’m happy I can play DF without having NPCs calling my character a murderer in world quests and raids.
Edit: typing.
Cheers.
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Not true, and baseless assumptions.
The lore seems like it has no depth. It’s written and narrated in a shallow way with weak cinematics and no emotions. There is the expectation aswell imo, that the lore currently serves a functional part for blizzard as a company, which also takes away from its interest. If they want people to care about their lore, they have to stick to the basics again, and basics doesn’t just refer to the theme, but apparently this was not obvious to them, since they claimed it was their selling point
That was a great rant at the time. Still is. The lore community (and everyone else) was seething at the time and this video was just when everything boiled over. The guy went out with a bang. 
And his criticism was and still is quite fair.
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Haha, I guess it’s this kind of dishonest garbage that earns you the Blizzard green approval badge.
There’s enough backlash on these forums to know that you are outright lying. Don’t bother replying because people like you are only worth one good laugh.
This is the most Warcraft expansion I have seen since legion.
-We are not fighting random/unnecessary battles with random races/factions because we have to for reasons.
-We are not fighting an enigmatic mastermind who had never existed before but somehow was involved in every iconic scene in this games lore?
-We are not fighting literal burning trash cans
Instead;
We are fighting elementals, elementalists and dragons which is the core Warcraft experience. Go back to any old world zone you will find one of those enemies 90% of the time. Our objective is not destroying the universe to save our precious queen or something but rather there is a threat and we have to stop it just like how we did before we became super heroes.
Overall this is without a doubt a better Warcraft expansion than both BFA and SL so this is the right direction for them.
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