Dragonflight: Return to the Forbidden Reach

Its not a case of being BiS or bad.

The further to the edge you get, the more dps, utility, and comps matter, this is due to the ramping endless difficult the game offers.

If for example.

The dps variation between classes is 20k.

You have to accept in a endless ramping system eventually that additional 20k per player will be demanded by the game itself.

Weather u like it or not.

WoWs end game is a dps check.

M+ theres a mimimum group dps requirement to time a key.

In raids theres a maximum time before enrage.

With endless scaling difficulties this means the games built for content to become too difficult i.e the scaling will eventually demand the absolute meta.

And will eventually one shot you on a auto attack.

To ignore that is just ignorance im afraid. If the difficulty scales endlessly. The more dps every level requires. With that said its very logically forseeable.

Also. Ur ignoring difficulty.

Its easier to time a +20 key on a meta class then a subpar class, thats factual. So if ur simply not skilled enough for a +20 players can rely on meta classes for accessibility.

Your correct, any specc could time a m+20, and any specc could accomplish raids, what ur ignoring is the vast majority of thekr raids and groups are meta.

If u stacked a Vengence DH, 2 Frost DKs and a survival hunter with a holy paladin into a +26 key. The likelyhood is unless ur absolutely exceptional players. U dont have a chance to time such a key.

They’re accountbound.

That’s not what I said and it’s not relevant to this discussion at all.

Can you elaborate what you mean by that?

Agree to disagree.

And you don’t need to. So what’s the issue here?

I disagree. It definitely impacts gameplay. Also; those ‘other games’ you mention: They’re most likely not MMORPGs.
Sounds like you just don’t want MMORPG mechanics in this MMORPG.

So that is a you issue. Not a game issue.
We can’t be catering to every single human quirk out there.

I can’t take you seriously. Because that’s just pure nonsense.

And I’m not talking about that.
I don’t care what a small percentage of the playerbase does.
The game DEFINITELY shouldn’t be catered to for them. And everyone who doesn’t play on that level should have the common sense to understand that they don’t need to adopt such a rigid and extreme way of thinking.

The ring part is but you only like hearing things when people agree with you.

It is but w/e you are a wannabe elite player who thinks he knows better and right in everything they say.

When is 10.0.7 release? This coming reset? Long maintenance on Wednesday.

No it’s not this coming reset unfortunatly: probably it will be the 22/03/2023, 29/03/2023 or 05/04/2023

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It shouldnt but heres the fact.

This concept u have of “any class and specc can manage anything” is built on the idea u czn 100 percentile a parse.

The “edge” as such as different based on each player.

Yes. A optimal player could get any specc to work in a m+20 or mythic raid, if you REALLY good.

However, for a bad player. No they most defintly couldnt you seem to ignore the concept most players only manage about 60% of their speccs dps potiental.

A average player, could not apply your mentality to the game, only a pro could because it takes Allot of skill to play a bad specc in content on par with meta choices.

Another borrowed power, another bullsh×it weekly farm, another reason to not sub. Blizzard drained me from 3 months worth of subscription this time. It was fun while it lasted.

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No I dont want a borrowed power again. I dont want to farm weekly vault on all my characters in hopes the right gem drops…

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You are completely out of touch with reality. I can only guess how old you are but I would guess older. Judging how extremely casual of a player you are. You have to realize that even tho most wow players do agree with you, that playing whatever you like is okay and that this next patch will be great (Most players ate Shadowlands anyway). You have to realize that people who actually do care about whats in patch notes are a little more hardcore. Including me. For example I dont understand how can YOU even begin to explain what is WoW and how to play it when in my opinion you havent even played WoW in years. 392ilvl, no m+, no raid, no pvp? What are you doing exactly? Just running around wasting your monthly subscription on absolutely nothing. So when it comes to actual gameplay changes and borrowed power, please let players, to whom it actually matters, explain to you whats happening and how bad is it.

dude its for like 6 weeks and replaced in 10.1 its a filler ring

Will be replaced by ANOTHER BORROWED power. You will see. They cant help themselves. They have to stunlock us. So we pay them.

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If they were for 10.1 it would have been annoucned by now, it is nothing to get worked up over.

You need to stop attacking players and focus on that they say.

If i was to say about you , you are hardly hardcore you are 2/8 mythic and at 2.800 rio not exactly the best of the best are you whilst trying to swagger about and belittle casual players who paye the same sub as you.

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Still payes the same sub as you so yes they do , it matters not what item level they have. Let that sink into your rather brick like head.

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All gear is borrowed power. :person_facepalming:t3:

And that’s not happening, so what is your issue?

I think, if you’d be able to look at it objectively, that YOU are out of touch with reality.
Sorry.

And yet I’m out of touch with reality?
Great way of sabotaging yourself dude.

That opinion is worth exactly NOTHING. It means nothing.
You do you. What you think of me doesn’t matter. Period.

No. Your opinion on those things is worth exactly the same as mine. Not more, not less.

But… You’re clearly an elitist after reading your comments.
And to me elitists are the lowest form of gamers in existence; their opinion means absolutely nothing to me and they shouldn’t have ANY say in whatever way, shape or form about what happens in games because everything they touch becomes toxic. They are destructive to the very core of gaming itself.

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Truth is adding another layer of random crap is gonna make the game way more unbalanced.

These rings are just a carrot on a stick for bored players before then next wave of content. This is the usual crap blizzard pulls to inflate the amount of “content”. Df is barebones and the only way (for blizzard) to make people engage with the open world beyond the most superficial level is to make them grind “necessary” borrowed power.

Personally i’m not gonna grind sh*t. I played the whole shadowlands with 225 leggos, so for me these rings can rot in the zig zag vaults.

And what’s wrong with that?

It’s optional borrowed power; it’s near the end of the season; it’s not necessary.

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