It always tickles my funny bone to see a blood elf being fiercely loyal to the Horde.
Like a nerdy rich kid trying to fit in with the hood.
I guess Im one of the few left who thinks the blood elves had no business joining the Horde? Garrithos is just a small, unpleasant stain in the annals of elven history compared to what the orcs, trolls and more recently undead did to Quelthalas and its people but sure.
Sorry but nope the Warcraft 2 days are long in the past by now. That Horde was defeated and the leaders of Quel’thalas made a deal with people you can actually negotiate with. Sticking with the alliance would be slaves of humanity who only care about recovering Lordaeron.
Imagine negotiating with Sylvanas.
Speaking of, even though I am not a fan of the blood elves joining the Horde I was vouching for Lorthemar becoming the warchief over Sylvanas. Heres hoping hell play a bigger role in the next expansion instead of being sidelined by some girlboss… or just not doing much at all.
With the way theyve been orchestrating the story I wouldnt be surprised if Rommath and Lorthemar will be left in the background or sacrificed and theyll find a way to give Liadrin the spotlight. Or Thalyssra.
The concept of Blood Elves as portrayed in Warcraft 3 and early TBC was far better than being sidekicks to humans. The Horde was also a loosely aligned gathering of scattered races and worked well when it was portrayed as such.
Many Blood Elf enthusiasts - myself included - don’t particularly like either faction. The Alliance and the Horde erode what makes specific playable races unique though the former is much more guilty of that than the latter.
Kael’thas being corrupted and unceremoniously killed off was the first of many dubious decisions. Not killing off Vereesa and Jaina for effectively doing the same thing as Garithos was another. Someone really should cave their fragile little skulls in like a duck egg already.
As for Blood Elves being a part of the Horde, it was necessary for the faction to exist - the vast majority of people do not want to play ugly characters. They want to play cool, conventionally attractive characters. If anything, the development team didn’t go far enough and to course correct they need to add another highly appealing playable race to the Horde. Especially now that they added Void Elves to the Alliance, largely eroding the biggest draw of the Horde altogether.
Kael’thas’ death was the worst blow for me. The fact the blood elf leadership was mostly unharmed after that was a saving grace.
I like how the likes of you camplain about Alliance being given Void Elves while totally ignoring the fact that the Horde was given Nightborne, a far better wrought out race in terms of culture and lore.
It’s ridiculous to see you being proud of “not being sidekicks to humans” when you’ve been used and abused so many times by the horde, first by Garosh as a cannon forder, then by Sylvanas by helping her do onto Night Elves exactly what Arthas had done to our homeland.
To yout last point, the horde has existed without blood elves just fine during the entire vanilla. It wasn’t a dying faction by any means.
Yeah, they kinda wasted his character, wasted to the end. They still had a chance to redeem him after Tempest Keep, by setting him up helping us to stop KJ from invading Azeroth, rather than assisting Kil"jaden.
Unlike Sylvanas, Kael actually did deserve a redemption arc, whatever questionable decisions he made, he made it for the sake of his people and not out of genocidal mania.
And honestly TBC reverse of Kael from being a benign, tolerant and kind guy in Warcraft 3 with whom you sympothize to an absolutely power hungry, hostile lunatic that helps start a Burning Legion invasion didn’t feel particularly convincing.
Of course the Horde was a dying faction. You are lying yet again. Less then 30% of all players were Horde back then. Vanilla started wrong and Blizzard needed years to fix all the inbalances.
No one playes Nightborne. Everyone cosplays as high elf with their void elf.
Void Elves share a base model with the Blood Elves, which is what most people want to play as. The Nightborne are interesting and I like the Highborne lore a lot - though their models leave much to be desired and they are not conventionally attractive.
Did you even read my post? I explicitly stated that:
I’ve also spoken out many time in the past in regards to Sylvanas and the game’s laughable refusal to hold women accountable for atrocities (Vereesa, Jaina, Sylvanas, Vanessa to name but a handful).
It would not have lasted. Again, most people pick humans or elves to play in fantasy games if the choice is available. There’s been a steep decline in the amount of Horde players for various reasons, with many former Blood Elf fans just biting the bullet and moving over to the Alliance due to a dwindling role-play scene.
I was not talking to you and here you’re with a non sense “noone playing” comment. Perhaps instead of flooding this forum with meaningless comments, you could pick a course of English language to try and grow out of your simplistic statements.
Also, Void Elves can be customized as High Elves, a race that has been required by fanbase since Vanilla. Thus you get people who want to play High Elves + people who want to play Blood Elves but for Alliance and this is how this allied race became so popular. I do not think that there are actually that many people who are interested in the actual Void Elves race, like myself.
So you liked the concept of BE in Warcraft 3 and early TBC. If I remember correctly. In early TBC Blood Elves had to beg to be invited to the horde (they were initially rejected by Thrall) and they had to closely ally with the Forsaken, for the sake of survival. This all made sense lorewise, no doubt, but it didn’t portrait Sin’dorei as a particularly noble nation.
You say it is better than being “Sidekicks to humans”, can you please explain what you mean by this term? Perhaps I understood it incorrectly.
And that happened by accident. If the sex scandals at Blizzard wouldn’t have happened and if Blizzard Activision didn’t get desperate and started doing dumb things in a desperate attempt for approval, velfs wouldn’t have the belf paintjob.
There was also point that humans didnt really all appreciate high elves and were really racist towards em. The whole Kael’thas arc showing that so basically going for the horde was the most logical step for em. And there isnt really noble faction in this lore every faction has done bad and good things there isnt any ultimately good one.
That was the purpose of the elfs before Warcraft 3. A pretty sidekick that fills the archer role of the alliance army and nothing else. TFT gave them agency and their own story which is what makes the blood elves now this great.
Horde palyers liek to ignore such facts.
Yes, the went from Human to Orc/ Forsaken sidekicks, just same canonfolder, even worse.
High were a better choide for allied race as void elfes which blizzard pullf out of thin air, nobody wanted void elves.
Ans ist absurd- blizazrd own arguzment- tehy are so few high elves, only to bring void elves who are even less in numbers.
And nbloodevels going to teh horde, which consist of 3 races wo were enemys of tehm, Orcs, trolls and undead, one the arch enmy and the otehr threis nemes , who massacerd them.
It dint make sense that lor`themar crosses in front of sylvans to get into the horde.
Yeah, teh few of garrithos and his man, but teh rest, you’re generalizing quite a bit.
Not to forget that the high elves isolated the alliance again after they fulfilled their duty and left the alliance and watched the scourge spread and did nothing, but just watched until it was too late and they stood in front of their own door.
Wrong…but dint suprise me you let out fact teh weer also prist ans sorceress
Cry harder.
Since they joined the Horde they were rather independant most of the time. Something they couldn’t do while being part of the alliance.
Void elves are far more popular then Nightborne. Instead of the attractive NPC models they now look like crap.
The new Horde is different. Everyone who was responsible for the second war is dead now. Something you tend to ignore when you throw around racial guilt all the time.
Sylvanas was her superior and deep down he still felt loyalty because they used to be friends, Halduron too.
So do you when you blame Forsaken and Orcs for something of the past.
They had no agency before TFT. Stick to the truth for once instead of your anti Horde hate agenda.
I think youre just stirring up things deliberately, completly missing the points people are making.
He is a troll from the german forum who is against me simply because I try to make things better for the Horde.
Yeah saw that from start even before i started talking here