How does the fact that we enjoy having a non-blight-evetything adversary diminish our point?
You mean High Warlord Cromush?
But on the frostwolves… you people realize that they only WERE in the horde because thier leader was the horde leader?
Thrall/Go’el is the rightful heir of the Frostwolf clan.
They pledged thier oath to Durotans son not to the Horde. They never renewed it vs Garrosh nor Sylvanas. So technically they cant be traitors of a faction they left after thier rightful leader was no longer in charge.
Srsly dont know why Go’el abandoned them as he is the rightful heir… maybe blizz just forgot that
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I am so glad you guys can live out your intimate dramas over Alliance ashes. FOR THE DARK LADY!
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Well maybe the fact that Drek’thar is still alive is because of the Horde that protected those lands from the Alliance. After all Alterac Valley would’ve been conquered ages ago if not for the Horde’s help. Cause last I check Drek’thar asked the Horde for help to defend the valley.
And I’m sure the Alliance would treat them with respect. That’s why they invaded frostwolf lands. Because of honor and respect.
Additionally the Ironforge dwarves believe they have a right to the lands as well, and Magni Bronzebeard has issued a “sovereign imperialistic imperative” to the Stormpike Guard to take the land for the kingdom of Ironforge.
Don’t mind my spite against the dirt Blizzard throws at us daily. It’s just casual me being a regular machine of salt and vengeful pity.
Then go and fight vs Drek’thar and kill him with honor.
The current Horde is kinda sick and tired of being killed with honor.
Just like your Warchief!
Oh, nice! Glorious find brother, truly, Drek’thar is a vile coward. But for some reason, I remember the Forsaken being aided by the Orcs in some strange land and battleground called Arathi basin. Hmmm…
This is the most heartbreaking forum post I have ever seen. I hope you guys will see better days, no one wanted this.
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“We have nothing left. We are truly…forsaken…”
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…you do know that these “Frostwolf Lands” were part of one of the kingdoms the orcs walzed through a decade before? We’re not talking about Frostfire Ridge, we’re talking about land they just squatted on. I didn’t say the dwarves were right, I said we have a case where both sides seem equally wrong in resorting to violence.
…what has that got to do with Stormpike’s attacking Hillsbrad? I really can’t follow your argument, sorry.
Difference being scale, context, and implications.
Drek’thar wasn’t willing to lend aid to the Forsaken in Hillsbrad (the ones that had Blighted Southshore), against a local enemy, when ordered to do so by a relatively low ranking officer, during times when the bulk of the war was elsewhere, and by simply stepping aside without a huge sign above his head that pointed at the Alliance having something to do with him.
Saurfang wasn’t willing to lend aid to the Horde (And the orc faction he leads), against a global enemy, when ordered to do so by the highest ranking officer (warchief), during times when the bulk of the war was everywhere (war he had helped start), and did so with a huge sign above his head that pointed at the Alliance having something to do with it.
I think the comparison here is flawed regarding how oversimplified you are painting it and the false equivalence/analogy you are basing it on.
Oh, i dont know…maybe because the first answer to his posts is about mocking his stance? Maybe because of how subsequent post just go ahead and mock any further or future arguments made?. Just stuff like that.
But this is rather sidetracking.
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You mean the kingdom that was officially disbanded by the Leaders of the Alliance of Lordaeron and became no mans land, when the Scourge took out the rest of it?
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You will have a fair and honorable peace where you do not need to be at the Alliance’s mercy for survival. Worry not.
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Mocking something=/=being unwelcome to dissent. Have you considered that he was mocked because his ideas were hyperbolic speculation, not very well thought-out?
And yet here you are and the Alliance also agreed to the pact because when Vol’jin told you Garrosh will mop the floor with all of you eventually you admitted he is right.
It was just a question of who dies first if the Alliance and the rebels are not united.
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And that makes it orc land… how? Obviously the Dwarves claim to have an older legal claim now that Perenolde is gone.
…Well, hold on to that straw.
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Thats your opinion. And if you think that stance enables you to simply mock the stuff you find hyperbolic or “not very well thought through”, then it is indeed some rather unwelcoming environment.
And again, this is sidetracking a lot.
Yes, Garrosh was so dangerous, all alone and abandoned by the rest of the Horde. Vol’jin saved the vile Alliance from his rightful Warchief, a traitor he is, let us collectively piss into his urn!
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You mean the part that supports Sylvanas? 
Ara, where did you take those quotes from? Have I missed that somewhere ingame?
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