Dual spec, why it wouldn't change anything

I don’t know about other servers but my server is starving for tanks, it’s gotten so bad that people are begging and offering gold in the chat.
We solve this problem by adding dual spec.
Classic dual spec would be unlockable at lvl 60 and cost 100 gold, keeping it in tune with that vanilla feel of earning things.
What this does is allow plate dps and druids that option of keeping some tank gear in their bags and tanking dungeons when they’re desperately needed, without having to fully commit to tanking.
Adding dual spec changes nothing in a bad way, nothing becomes easier, it doesn’t ruin the feel on vanilla, unlearning talents would still cost gold.
Please don’t reply with the usual no changes, go play retail nonsese.
Instead try and find 1 negative that would happen by adding dual spec, you won’t be able to.
If a change has a positive impact with absolutely no negative one, it should definitely be added.

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Wrong.

Tanks are more than capable of tanking dungeons in their DPS spec, they still choose not to. Giving people dual spec isn’t going to make them want to tank.

The solution to lack of tanks? Play a tank.

Don’t want to tank? Well, neither does anybody else.

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Bfa
Classic, Can heal Dungeons in shadow spec.
Tank Can tank in fury

Fully understanding ur class will help.
Ofc it’s easyier with correct spec. But thats not how it is.

You don’t get anything out of this complain.

I can’t see a problem.
Where are the problem?

Go with guildies.

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People spend 100g to specc and respecc during a raidnight, its nothing special. “Earning” Dual Spec, which I dont support at all, would have to cost atleast 10 000g in order to feel like something people earned.

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If people don’t want to tank why the heck would they pay 100g on top of that? Lame logic

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Dual spec most likely won’t solve the tank shortage. I play a tank, but due to the vast majority of pug-attitude I’ve encountered, I mostly tank for friends and guildies. In arms-spec and that works completely fine.

Bottom line; Many players do not want to tank, for various reasons. Dual spec will not change that.

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As much as I would want this, just no. ( and I say this having spendt a ton of gold already swapping between shadow and disc/holy )

It would have a severe impact on the economy and how alive the world feels as people would stop going out to grind. Come phase 3 you would once again have a barren and desolate world, were you are more likely to encounter rare mobs than other players.

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Go roll a tank then, be the solution to the problems you face or step aside and let someone else do it

Dualspec while a nice feature when it was introduced would change everything because of the removal of respec cost, dont know where the idea came from that nothing would change but that’s just false

Also a lot of people seem to think that ‘no changes’ is not a valid arguement because… well, their own opinion
Just because you feel no changes isnt a valid arguement doesn’t mean it isnt
You cant Just declare logical arguements invalid because you have no counter to it

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I am a tank and I only tank with guild members because pugs are a nightmare. Dual spec won’t change anything as others said arms or fury warrior can easily tank dungeons they just don’t want to.

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Plate dps may have a hard time tanking 55+ dungeons.
Adding dual spec isn’t just for tanks, it’s an amazing game feature that gives players the freedom to play their way.

From the other end of the spectrum;

As a healer, I really, really try to be patient with PuG tanks - but it’s feels like a blindbag.
Sometimes you can get a underleveled tank in crap gear that does an excellent job and other times I get aggro from adds on my 2nd heal and have to fend for my self :frowning:

There are very few tanks willing to PuG, and unfortunately a good number of the ones that does are beyond help.

I try to gently offer helpful insights to educate the tanks are aren’t purposefully bad ( or scold the DPS as needed ) - but when a warrior tank cant hold aggro on anything except {skull} I don’t know enough about to the class to offer anything except “do you need more time to build aggro?”. Which isn’t really applicable when it’s healing that pulls the aggro, I mean if I dont heal (s)he dies :confused:

No, they don’t. I can easily tank any dungeon in my fury spec with my gear and a shield; things I’d still require whether I had dual spec or not.

Freedom to play their way ISN’T the classic way. In Classic, there is a consequence to every action and choice. If you can’t choose what spec you want to play, you have to pay a price; literally.

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I recently rolled a warrior tank alt and I can tell you… tanking is not easy in vanilla. And being 99 % time rage starved and being accompanied by players that mostly just don´t care about aggro etc… I can´t say I would enjoy these runs. Clearly most people find it more fun and much much easier just to stay behind and spam AoE spells. So yeah… most dps will be waiting long to find a group and it´s perfectly fine. If you have problem with that, roll a tank (if you have some balls).

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Tanks are in low not because there is not a dual spec system in the game but because tanking is boring and easy, which is the reason why not many are playing as a tank.

Classic in general is super easy, so dps tend to be the most fun even though its easier than tanking.

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Dual spec would be a nice addition to the game (along with some other features but that’s not for now) but it has to be with some restrictions
For example (and those are my thoughts) Dual spec from and to a tank or healer secondary spec (since those specs are the ones that needed the most), should have a lower cost ,let’s say 20g but swapping between DPS specs should cost let’s say 30g.
Also we could add a minimum time that someone should remain in a specific spec after changes let’s say 1 hour at least before swapping back.
I think middle ground with some restrictions is way better than what retail has

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You are mistaken OP. Dual spec would solve the issues of Farming for Healers/Tanks.

What would solve tank shortage issues is one thing only. More classes with a Tank spec.
Anything less than that doesn’t even begin to scratch the surface of what an issue this has been for over a decade and I blame this religious belief that only the Warrior type classes, Could be Tanks.

The day Blizzard gives Priests a Tank spec, that’s the day when this stupid tradition will have truly died.

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Everyone can play his way already. You just have some (wrong) idea what change would make it easier for you.

I mean our MT isn’t using a shield for any boss in MC.

On topic, no, respeccing is a way to combat inflation.

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Didn’t work for retail, people still complain about lack of tanks.

That would also be the day that the holy trinity dies, and class identity with it. Guild Wars 2 is that way —>

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If tanking is boring all dps should just delete the game immediately otherwise they’ll die of boredom.