Since you realized Dire Maul was necessary during p1, a decision with which I totally agree, I would also like to know whether you are considering adding the dungeon set 2 quest chains to the game during p1, or eventually early p2.
THe dungeon set 2 are, like DIre Maul, a catch up mechanic, and a way for many of us who cannot commit to raid to get some decent quality gear at our own pace.
The way this is planned, these sets will be released in p5. In my view, this makes no sense at all.
Is there anything that prevents you from releasing them early?
The problem with T0.5 is that they unlock bosses that do drop some interesting loot. And for PvP case could be made for the ironweave set for casters too.
They are in P5 as the upgrade was added late in vanilla as something for the totally non-raiding players (even though those items aren’t best they had the loot and perception of being GoTo gear).
We already got DM withou p2, simply let it be, if its part of phase X it should come in phase X, what u want is basicly raid quality gear without comiting time to raid, sorry but this idea works only on retail, and should never be in classic… One be best geared? Spend time playing game and doing content… And im saying this as some1 who will probably never kill rag cuz of no time to play
By this logic, you might as well release every single piece of catch-up gear already, including ridiculous stuff like Spellweaver Turban.
Right now you already have access to a lot of good stuff already, even if you don’t raid - the difference between a pre-raid BiS char and a raid BiS right now is far from insurmountable for most classes/specs.
Just as you have progression for raid loot, so you have progression for catch-up gear too. You can’t expect it to be all out right away, just because you can’t raid.
avg guilds will clear mc, bwl and aq40 in around an hour each. getting r10 is likely less time consuming than getting d2, which is worse for most classes.
iirc the upgraded dungeon set was released so late in vanilla that people mostly did it for Sh:s and giggles, or for the prestige if you will, and not because they actually needed it (with the exception of the odd piece).
I’d expect the #nochanges-crowd to be adamant about it not being released in Classic until it’s useless for the vast majority of the playerbase, just as it was back then.
Personally I think that releasing it in P5 is way too late, but I also think that releasing it now would be too early.
Hardcore guilds will clear aq in an hour. Average will hardly get to twins in that time and have endless wipes on c’thun trash even if they manage the twins eventually. Then they will get bored and run back to elaborate on trio and visc. That’s the most likely scenario for 90% of the playerbase
Look you all make valid points. But none of you can disregard the fact that dungeon set 2 (or tier 0.5) is worse than tier 1 for the majority (if not all) cases.
Yes, this chain quest unlocks 1 boss with very good loot. Would that create such a big issue? I don’t think It would.
On the other hand, releasing Tier 0.5 in p5 is a bit of a waste because by then even casuals will be decked in at least tier 1.
No. T0,5 was intended for players that do not raid to get decent gear. There is no point in releasing it now, that alot of it is better than dungeon loot and several items are better than t1 by a large margin. For example, mage and warlock gloves, warrior boots i think. The rogue 4 piece bonus destroys t1 at the current state.
I urge Blizzard to stay with their content release plan! Dont take some random content and move it forward several phases. Dire maul is kinda special case here tbh. Since it was the next content to come anyway. Also i think they did it to disperse the pvp and pvp players a bit more in terms of ppl logging in for new content. I assume they push p2 further back due to most realms still beeing layered…
Have you even collected the normal dungeon set yet and a couple of hundred gold for the quests? And if you had the Dungeon Set 2 quests, what would you do after a week when it’s all done that you can’t do now?
D2 was originally released as a catch-up for naxx. If they release it now along with the zg, that would be quite timely to pickup by alts/new chars before the aq hits.