We all know:
How hard it is to run an entire RatedBG team.
How crucial your partners skill/gear is in Arena.
How monstrously antisocial SS is.
But you can:
Find 1 buddy to queue for a RatedBG.
Afford to take bring a 2nd pick if he’s only 10% of the team and respawns!
Both enjoy a bit of comradery along the way.
We all have friends who never quite caught the Rated PVP bug because Arena is a pressure cooker that reveals the entire skill mountain to an inexperienced player in 30secs, tuning them out instantly. #unsubscribed…
This may be the best PvP recipe devs have cooked up it years:
1 part Rated to get players on a pvp ladder.
1 part BG to remove the life-or-death pressure.
1 part Random to make queueing easy and un-gatekept.
1 part Social because even the guy who isn’t quite arena partner material is still far better than bringing nobody at all.
Duos in solo ratebg, its ironical. The rest are solo but the healer+dps can que duo. I hope they see the other players in the bg aswell and not only play it as 2man game for their solobg cause that would be very hard for the other 6 players in their team if they would have to yolo without heals for example
2-3 healers bringing a friend means 1/2 the team is duoing.
This advantage will encourage more ppl to play healer, so horde might actually have some
Maths pretty well
I also think that allowing duos is a good thing. Other games (which are more competitve and more popular) do allow it as well without running into problems, so there’s no reason to not allow it here. It’s a game for entertainment, not some virtual olympics lol.
There’s already Shuffle which is pure soloq and the easiest game mode to push rating by far. People who enjoy to play with friends also deserve a game mode that isn’t dead.
Remember its just one friend and sadly its not the point of bgs to have these own small teams that only play 2man while rest are left manage on their own. I know what you want but this duo option with heals for solo bg is what will make it bad for anyone who goes there alone as dps. Have you ever tested warrior for example in battleground and not receive single heal for entire game, i can say there is not much he can do and it wont be enjoyable for him. I know how ppl play with 2man teams when they join with their 2s partner to battleground and they do only their own thing. Its exactly what happens with every 2man heal+dps team in solo bg, they will play their own 2man mini game and its kinda pointless for the 4 dps that did not join with a personal pocket healer that doesnt heal anyone else than his friend on focus.
Well yes, but with a ranking system in place these duo teams will be filtered out once you get to mid ratings. I’m playing healer only and never only healed one premade.
Honestly, if the next popular PvP game mode (even tho it’s questionable to consider Shuffle as popular) is again solo play then I’ll quit the game for sure. I’d expect from a MMO that it encourages playing with friends more than a competitive game like LoL but apparantly the opposite is the case.
I really hope that Blitz bg will do to Shuffle what Shuffle did to 2s and 3s: Being so insanely rating inflated in comparison that nobody bothers playing the other mode anymore.
2 players even if they are really-really good, can’t really affect the balance somehow. Trust me, I tried. Let’s start with the thing that it is nearly impossible to carry a match as a healer. You can heal your team, you can keep it healthy always, If you heal them more than for 100%, you will do nothing but overheal. But the thing is, you can’t make them doing objectives. There is so much RNG in SoloRBGs, where, trust me, a premade of 2 will be drowned. At least, people (and me) can play with their friends, and yes, most of the times I heal my entire team, I don’t make my friend special for me, because if I give up on my team and start healing only my friend, my team dies and we lose the game. There’s no so much options where you can play with your friend in PVP. 2v2 is unbalanced and disgusting, 3v3 requires 1 more person, random BGs are flooded with premades and people who don’t care.
Both rdruids in kotmgu in group with somebody and its easy to see with whom if i look details breakdown after the match. They heal self and the friend both. Im going on orb carrys as a rog all game and receiving literally zero heals through the game and we lose 700-1500, now if you ask me if it were a good thing these two rdruid joined with a dps friend I would say it werent if the friend is the only target theyre able to heal all game cause that made us lose the match in the end. The other came with a retripala and the other came with a rog and both healers did all their healing into self or the friend of theirs and nothing to anyone else for the solobg kotmogus duration, its the result that I could had predict of this design cause I already had an idea how 2man teams from arena play in battlegrounds with their 2v2 friend that they join with, they play like pockethealer with dps friend on focus target and just tunnel the friend all game.
There are brackets to play with friends. 10v10 RBG 3v3, 2v2. But guess what? The solo que mode is extremely more popular than any of these for a reason.
It’s funny that you assume that the reason for Shuffle being played more is that it doesn’t allow you to queue with friends and not that it’s much easier to push rating there than it is in 3s and 2s. Why is LoL more popular than arena despite allowing me to queue ranked with a premade?
Also your comment will come back and bite you when Shuffle popularity will be in free fall once blitz bgs releases.
I still believe that this will even out once people get to mid ratings and when it’s actually ranked. Played some blitz bgs as well and tbh, I’m not sure if that even happens on purpose. People there might not heal you because they’re terrible.
I hope 2man teams realise they need play with others in team too cause its pretty pointless otherwise if the heals only heal their friend, they join the game to heal 8 ppl on team them included, or thats the general idea of it. I should not see them only heal friend and self when I look details after game. I took a screen of game I joined alone and healed 108mil total in wsg and I healed everyone, then if I join as dps I see ppl heal like 50% self and 50% friend and its so irritating they dont get theyre not in 2v2 there.
How is the comment going to come back and bite me if another SOLO que makes the other SOLO que be played less? Just watch your “premade with friends” brackets that are dying because no one wants to sit lfg to find people to play with. People want solo to get fair matches against and with players at their own mmr.
And funny that u would bring in league of legends solo allowing duo since riot actually removed duo que from high elo solo ladder for a period because it was a big problem. And many people are against duo que in league as well.
Then just stick to Shuffle and avoid Blitz bgs. There’s your solo only mode (which will probably be dead soon because healers will abandon it completely).
They’re bringing it back for a reason. And I’ve played LoL by myself at high ranking and I’ve never seen many people complain about duoq nor has it ever been a problem. The same people always get to high rating, no matter if they queue solo or duo.
