Echoing Void over nerfed?

You’re still asking to fulfill the role of 2 different specializations. Which is not how the devs intend you to play.

Also tanks can be more useful than DPS in PvP BGs as well…

There is no class in the game locked to being pure tank, and for good reason.

Because TD sucks in single target, and IS sucks in aoe. EV was good at both scenarios. Yes the nerf was excessive but its obvious that even IF they nerf TD and IS, those 2 are going to be the best corruptions to take on aoe and single target situations.

We both know the only way to make it balanced like that is for ALL classes to have all 3 specs, Healer, DPS and Tank.

As other games such as FF 14 allows you with their class system. Which is a rather nice system might I add.

Wouldn’t mind.

Great idea, I know nothing about tanking or healing… but, I would love the shorter queueing times.

What could go wrong, one’s hit something repeatedly and bubble, the other is put a big green circle on the ground, how difficult can that be?

:grin:

Ive used EVrank3 pre nerf, it was lit, yet 90% of dmgers outdmged me in overal.

So maybe tanks doing more than you aint corruption problem?

A healing spec for hunter… now that’s a challenge to design.

I think you’re confused. I never ONCE stated any tank doing more dmg than me, either pre-EV nerf or post-EV nerf. I stated something completely different.

I would in fact consider it a massive problem if a tank did more dps than me.

Heal Pet can be applied to allies…Exhilaration, becomes a chain heal…Aspect of the Turtle, becomes an AOE location, heal over time.

Sorry what?

I can solo any world content where a dps would fail or require a group.
I can solo vision without mask and probably with a bit more tr i can do with those too.
I have to carry people into island just because i can’t queue without
I can do wonders in bg as flag carrier or base defender.

There is a lot of things a tank can do outside instances providing you know what you’re doing.

Well yhen once again, where is problem exactly? Lets say dps do 70k overal, tank do 50k overal, how will help you bringing tank down to 30k? Its better for you when he get more isnt it?

And since dps always do more than tank your statement about 4tanks 1heal is useles cuz dps will do still more, so once again, whats your problem with tanks having dmg then?

Are you reading what I’m writing or just arguing for the sake or arguing btw?

You’re incorrect. Tanks CAN solo visions, I did the horrific vision of Orgrimmar on my 449 ilvl blood DK last week. And with him I can kill any elite in the open world without a group as well with few exceptions.
But unfortunately most players (and looks like Blizzard themselves too) see tanks solely as a punch-bags that shouldn’t be allowed to do decent damage . In my opinion nerfing EV in PVE was simply unjustified — its damage in PVP had been halved already.

Me? Its you who cant answer a question, what is your problem with tanks having more dmg but still be under dps?

It’s pretty obvious why a tank shouldnt do as much or slightly less damage then a dps (damage dealer), why the hell would you bring dps classes then if the tanks do just as much, but the tanks wont die, and they also dont need any healing really.

Right now it’s stupid, tanks doing 50k dps cuz of a corruption, dps doing maybe the same if they know what theyre doing, but many times I see dps in general around 40k to 45k total damage.

Tanks should do half the damage a dps does, or else there no need for dps at all.

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Define slighty less.

If dps does 70k and tank 40 i think its pretty fine…

Even he said so^^

40/70 is slightly more than half but well, close enough.

But I guess the average dpser does not reach 70k sustained st dps (or were we nog talking about st?)

Yes, I can do 25-30k dps as brewmaster and solo those world bosses, or I can do 60k as windwalker. Yes, you can bore mobs to death, but thats not fun game play.
And for isles I go windwlaker because of quicker movement, and more aoe.
You can solo a vision without a mask, and ho about 3-4 masks ? You know what 460+ ilevel people do, and I cannot in tank spec (not that I have tried, but knowing difference between tank aoe and dps aoe… mmmmm) .
Yeah a holy priest can kill a mob in world too, and take 4 minutes for it, or they can go shadow - same thing as with tanks.

This all that you can suffer yourself trough non instanced world with tank and healer spec, does not mean it is “good, engaging and remotely fun” - every fun part of tanks outside raids and dungeons is killed by people, who complain soon as someone is close their dps or manages kill them in PvP.

It is kind of amusing how people want tanks be just 0 damage ‘taunt bots’ - if this is the case - blizzard is better of removing the holy trinity logic from game. Tank shortage is because it is really non-rewarding role to play.

Talking about m+ overal most of time :smiley: but yea its close…

Ev doing 20-25% less damage than tentacle of same rank, eventhough i am playing tank spec with 630k hp unbuffed. So it’s pretty bad for tank and borderline useless for dps. If it is not “overnerfed” than i dunno what is.