People knew this neck was going to be BiS and for that reason there is a good amount of us that took jewel crafting and SPECCED into necks. We expected to be able to get that recipe like all other, a bit of farm over here, some farm over there, regular stuff.
Instead what we get is a recipe rarer than Sha of Anger mount pre nerf.
This actually just invalidates the choice to go into JC and spec into necks for something that was NOT known beforehand.
Another consequence for this is that people that want to craft the neck, have to pay a hefty price, that will steadily increase since the few people that can craft this will be able to monopolize entire servers. It wouldnât surprise me if it would be a better ROI if crafters actually buy out the recipes for millions, just to keep other people from entering the market.
I do not believe it would be good to let his situation with the Elemental Lariot design to continue without increasing the drop chance.
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The more JCs obtain this recipe, the less pricey it will be actually.
But I honestly dont understand some choices by blizzard either
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I completely agree - this has been the most miserable grind (that Iâm still doing for 8+ hours a day) for a long, long time. Please Blizzard just consider putting the recipe onto the primal storms vendor, for like 5000 currency. That way at least weâve have a valid route of farming the damn thing. One recipe finally showed up on my server, for 10million gold⊠Like what is happening - why on earth is JC LITERALLY the only profession that has to deal with these recipe drops? Both the lariat and the hourglass ring are INCREDIBLY rare, beyond that of a Sha of Anger mount even. Iâd say more people in wow have a Swift Spectral Tiger than this recipe design.
We understand that rare recipes are fun, but if thatâs the route youâre going into LET ME RESPECC MY PROFESSION THAT I INVESTED TIME AND GOLD INTO. PLEASE!
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Enchanter here.
Iâm feeling the exact same way about these Primal Illusion enchants, and they are a much higher drop rate as I have actually seen other people get them.
I have been hitting as many of these rares as possible all week, not even one of them.
Itâs horrible when you choose to put work into something and it never feels like it pays off.
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Blizzard is sleeping, bad dev work. I think once again they are living on a complete different planet than their customer. Actually i suspect they do not threat us as customers but more like addicted sheeps where they can do anything they want.
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Alternatively you could do something else with your time, like learn a foreign language or learn a musical instrument. No-one is forcing you to do this, you are just some addict with FOMO. Also no-one else is going to be the least bit impressed that you wasted hundreds if not thousands of hours of your life over this stupid recipe. They will at best pity you.
From a design PoV things like this are great, I love there being uber rare items hardly anyone has.
They obviously didnât intend for people to grind for it, just for a lucky one or two to get it. This just reads like ââwah wah wah thereâs a rare thing i want but it is too rare for me to be able to get it wah wah wah i want everything and I want it now, change the game so i get everything plzââ
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People are so addicted to FOMO that they create FOMO for themselves⊠Itâs really mind-blowingâŠ
Crafting was never supposed to be better than getting gear the traditional way. At best, it works as a bad-luck protection. But here we have people trying to play Game 2 instead of Game 1 by trying to do something that is not supported by the design itself.
And not only are some people trying to do something so illogical but they choose to complain in the forums about it as well⊠
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Pattern for weapon illusion also drop like sh** missing 6 Points in ench and Hard to Skill with over 40k mat prices and Thats Green
Rare drops are fun for cosmetics. Glasses/sunglasses cosmetics tend to be rare. That can be fun.
This neck is literally BiS for everyone.
Itâs not FOMO, itâs wanting to engage in a part of the game that Blizzard have presented us, that has actually been fun, and then having 99% of people locked out of it for no logical reason.
âThey obviously designed it to be for a lucky few :)â
Then state that BEFORE we all wasted 3 weeks speccing into necks, and now have our profession near invalidated.
Designing things like MOUNTS, COSMETICS for a lucky few is fine. Thatâs fun.
But this is literally invalidating a whole profession branch. People are allowed to be mad.
Also. Donât be so rude.
âYou could go and learn a language instead of wasting time being rude on forums :))â
The person you replied to hasnât done or said anything to upset you. So why be like that?
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Pretty strange move for Blizz to make this particular neck bis for pretty much everyone then.
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The neck is BiS for everyone. It is better than getting gear the traditional way.
Itâs not FOMO. Itâs wanting to be able to engage in Gameplay that Blizzard have presented us.
Imagine someone needing an cloak to run mythic+ content. Now imagine that could only be obtained in an 8+ hour grind and had a 0.1% drop chance.
Also imagine that Blizzard hadnât told anyone how insanely rare this cloak would be, so you spent the first 3 weeks of the expansion grinding rep to get the best gear, ready to go when M+ was released.
And just for a second⊠imagine that this was something YOU wanted to engage in, and that it actually affected you before you complain that other people are unhappy - you and the classic gnome.
Are we affecting you by being upset by this? No.
Where else are players going to get heard by Blizzard?
Itâs a legitimate issue. No need to be rude about it.
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Yes you do, I personally had enough of seeing content getting ruined because of endless illogical moaning. So I am going to defend everything I like in the game from now on like itâs my firstborn child.
Itâs not and I am not.
Unfortunately for you itâs not just us. It is just the two of us are the most passionate about it.
How the hell is a crafted neck piece BiS. You are going to get a better one from Raids and M+ way easier and way sooner. And just for the sake of the argument, even IF it was bis, how much is a single bis piece gonna affect your gameplay? You are actively affecting yourself more by committing to such a grind and geting frustrated. So itâs a you problem as I see it.
Some things can be rare in the game. Nothing wrong with it. Itâs not like a basic requirement to enjoy a certain content is locked behind an impossible grind. Itâs just a âBiSâ neck piece ffs.
Are we for real here? I donât even know what piece is that and I did some M+ today just fine! How the hell you need that neck/cloak piece (or whatever it really is) to do M+. It was just a nice thing to have if it dropped for you I guess but in no way you ever needed that for anything.
See? Thatâs what I was talking about when I mentioned FOMO. You created an artificial FOMO for you by making it the mission of the week to get that recipe no matter what. A recipe you donât really need to do some M+. And akl you got foe your efforts was infinite frustration. Thatâs what you get when you try to play Game 2.
If you have no idea what necklace we are even talking about why not look it up first, before joining the discussion, being so confidently incorrect just makes you look silly and uninformed. The neck is so good because it has a unique procc and in case you didnât know, crafted gear can upgraded to ilvl to 418 (which is mid-mythic ilvl).
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Heâs not wrong on the need of having it to be able to do current content though. Yeah, it has an amazing proc. But overall, unless youâre aiming for world firsts, one item doesnât hinder you from completing dungeons or raids.
That said. Blizz could certainly stand some critique for their design regarding the recipé acquisition this expansion.
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Well at least you get to keep the recipe when you learn it! Imagine if it was also one-use only, with a 50% chance that the recipe would fail and produce nothing. You see, it could be alot worse. I hope this cheered you all up.
Yeah that is a fair point, I was mostly just pointing out how good crafting gear can be (and this neck in particular).
I see people keep bringing this up, so because itâs BiS for everyone then it needs to be easily acquired and available to everyone?
Just cause something is BiS doesnât mean you canât play the game or achieve EVERYTHING in the game without it.
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True, but the drop being stupidly rare and silly good makes for a worse experience.
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Guys
If you see someone advertising Q5 lariat. up to 418 and your looking for an ordinairy 392 craft and a recraft later
Dont buy Q3 daimond.
Buy q2 daimond.
Send order with 5000 gold max.
Dont fall for this 50K trap.
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explodes in alchemy
Yo, where all my recipes at?
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