Elvui hiatus in midnight. Please stop this blizzard, open up the API again!

Now officially confirmed, development on a version for Midnight now on an indefinite hiatus.

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/news/elvui-is-done-for-midnight-wows-most-popular-addon-just-quit/

https://www.warcrafttavern.com/wow/news/elvui-joins-weakauras-in-development-limbo-for-midnight/

This was the addon i first installed, updated and completly customized to my liking.
It has so many more options that blizzard could add in 10 years and most of them will never be added.
Please open up the API, cause saying your in talks with them is not cutting it anymore!

Thanks to all the developers who’ve worked on it over the years.

As a loyal fan of 20+ years… Blizzard please listen to your community.

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“Times change.”

This was written on the wall the second Blizzard revealed their plans for addons moving into Midnight tbh. For my part, as a player of so-and-so many years, I don’t think this is quite the apocalypse.

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Community also says addons have gone too far and need to be reigned in. If the community gives conflicting feedback who do you listen to?

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Having addons like weakaura and some others have a complete automation of what addons do? Sure i really dont minde them scrapping it.
But blizzard has proven they can’t update their own UI to a reasonable level in a reasonable time.
And the fact that one of the biggest addons out there is throwing the towel in the ring, thats bad.

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Part of your community.

There’s also a substantial part saying: Don’t budge.
There’s also a substantial part that doesn’t give a crap.

:sweat_smile:

Besides: Elvui can continue, but they’ll need to make some changes to how they do things. If they’re not willing to do that; that’s their choice and not Blizzard forcing them.

Anyway, there will likely be someone who’s willing to continue development; or make their own version. :dracthyr_shrug:

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Bartender and Shadowed Unitframes are good enough. ElvUI is overrated anyway.

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Open up the door ! It’s fbi

Of course you listen to me . :dracthyr_nod:

both wont work either

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Missinformation.

At the momentarily state of alpha customization addons like these do not work. Blizzard is intended to re-enable those functionalities during the cause of the alpha.

Refrain from spreading emotion driven missinformation from WoW players, addon developers and news sites.

Patience is required until alpha ends and we have more information about what Blizzard by then intends to and has already re-enabled and what not.

The shareholders

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The community thinks addons “play for you”. Which is the definition of not having any idea of what they are talking about.

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They cant. And they already explained why.

Look at what blizzard sais:

And I quote:

“Furthermore, addons should retain their ability to customize how information is presented to the player.”

However. At the moment, addons cant even rename the mobs (for example). Because that implies “calculating” things. As in: Take the mob name, pass it through an algorithm that spits out a new name. Print that name.

That cannot be done. That is “addons making decisions for you”. Because it calculates something.

And that is why ElvUI wont be continued. So IMO Blizzard is not keeping their word. Literally.

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I really find it interesting how the people who never used ElvUI or only tried it for a day, tend to be the loudest in these discussions, leaving comments like “won’t be missed.” First, it’s not the combat addon. Second, many overlook its biggest strength: visibility and accessibility.

Personally, I use ElvUI primarily because it enhances visibility and allows me to fully customize my UI to suit my point of view. Most ElvUI users will tell you the same. I’m usually the first to vote against combat addons, but even after 20 years, we’re still stuck with an old, not-so-customizable default UI.

Yes, they’ve been adding more features lately, which is good. But accessibility should remain the top priority in UI design. It would also be amazing if they offered UI overhauls, like preset styles (Style 1, 2, 3, etc.), and many more customization options.

I really hope they find a way to integrate or preserve ElvUI because it will be sorely missed.

A lot of people have used the Blizzard UI for 20 years, and that’s fine. But many of us have vision issues and other challenges, which is why addons like ElvUI are so important.

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There is also a statement on the GitHub repo which I think is worth quoting, so people get an idea what is going on.

After spending a couple of hours on the alpha and seeing how bad the state of it actually is I’ve decided to put this endevour on hold.

Just to get oUF not throwing errors left and right I had to completely disable core functionality such as nameplates, tags, castbars and auras, as well as a couple more elements. Tags and nameplates could probably be salvaged, but for the others there just isn’t a way to have them in any working order.

Blizzard wants us to provide them with feedback and free Q/A, and I’m not doing that just to help them fix the mess they got themselves into, they have employees on their payroll that can figure that out for themselves. In the current state oUF will not be worked on, atleast not by me. I will give it another go in a few months when they announce a date for the pre-patch, to see if it’s in any way salvageable.

If by then it’s still a broken mess we might just call it the end of this project. I’m going to leave this draft up for now and we’ll see when the time comes.

Im part of ‘the community’ and I dont think that…

You dont. I dont either. But half the comments in the forums say otherwise.

ElvUI in 2013 was better than the Blizz UI is today. I’m not sure how they go from trying to prevent combat addons being mandatory to solve overly complex raid bosses to completely doing a nuke on all addons which have formed the foundation of the game over the last 20 years.

The default UI in WoW is terrible, the only reason I won’t cancel my sub over this mess is because I still play Classic in its many variations, but I won’t play Midnight without UI addons.

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Agreed, this is also what really puzzles me. I totally get that they want to prevent certain types of Weak Auras that provide real-time solutions to raid mechanics. And I doubt you will find many that would argue against removing those.

But what they are doing is going so, so much further than that…and I am not convinced they have really thought this through.

Ironically the same community defends the one button assistant with their life

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