No no, you dont understand. Its not a cheat when Blizzard implements it~.
Oh the irony.
You get a severe penalty for using the one button rotation. You get no real advantage when doing content above heroic dungeons. Addons however, play the game for you, they are by definition cheats.
97% of all definitions found on the internet were made up on the spot ![]()
A severe penalty that outparses 70% of the heroic community.
Which addon played the Tindral mythic fight for me?
Shadowed Unit Frames that makes my Unit Frames prettier?
The raid WA that makes my minimap bigger (which i didnt need after playing the flyer mechanic once on each platform)?
Bartender which ultimately serves no purpose anymore?
Addons cant play the game for you. They visualize the given information in a way that its easy to process.
I fail to see which addon processed the information and pressed all the inputs for me.
Another L post from you.
I donât get all the fear the API restrictions are causing.
In my book if a game requires external aids (in this case addons) to be playable for ânormalâ difficulty, then the game is just designed badly and needs to be improved. If something on the other hand is designed to be hard and is trivialized by aids, than itâs an unfair advantage.
Issue until now is that there is no urge for improvement, because everyone is just fixing the game for themselves.
Wait until you play Midnight, experience the changes and give them a fair chance and then be loud and consequent if anything feels unplayable.
Fair point.
I personally think only combat addons (mainly in PvP) have to be regulated, there are A LOT of QoL improving addons out there that should be in the game already. They only had 20 yearsâŚ
Exactly, and a lot of people do not trust Blizz to adequately do that. Hence the âfearâ.
How is ElvUI playing the game for me by making my UI look nicer? How is weakauras playing the game for me by telling me (by example) how much duration/stacks of healing pot I have in the delve, where the default CD tracker fails?
The one button rotation literally plays the game for you, addons can improve the UI and help you make decisions, it can even tell you what to do, but you still have to use that information and take those actions yourself, the one button rotation is literally playing the game because it removes that element entirely and automates gameplay.
Yeah some WAâs were taking it too far, and Blizzard are at fault for creating bosses that assumed you had a WA to make it easier, the vast majority of addons were not for that.
1 out of 8 mythic bosses in TWW was a WA boss. Ovinax for example would have been a great boss if Blizzard makes 3 different marks to indicate which eggs can be triggered with which mark.
Example: Triangle triggers the spiders.
Circle triggers Ghuunis
Square triggers worms.
Boss fight solved without a single WA. Would it be too easy for a mythic 5th boss? Ehh, maybe, maybe not.
50% of our wipes were due to WA problems. That kind of progression is simply not fun.
uhu, heroic =/= difficult lol. Only 16% of players touch it and rely on copious amounts of cheats. Wow players are bad at games, water is wet. So funny, most of wow players suck but will defend having 50 buttons that they canât optimally press.
Honest time here, if the one button rotation does more dps then you, then youâre not a heroic tier player at all. Youâre getting carried by addons etc. It is extremely simple to outdps that. at least for me as a frost mage it is, if I just randomly smash buttons I have a good chance of outdpsing the one button rotation by 10% in delves / dungeons etc, imagine if you actually try. But idk for all classes ofc.
I still use the one button rotation for classes I donât know, like iâm trying shaman in legion remix for the first time. Very handy for that. And itâs good that it does decent dps.
ElvUI looks hideous, out of place and ruins game performance â first of all. Besides that it gives clear advantages for healing that the default ui does not have. With midnight thatâll be considered what it always was; cheating.
I have a locked 90 fps while playing WoW with ElvUI, it has no perceivable impact on performance and is not resource heavy, so that is false. Even if it were resource heavy, itâs a choice you make with addons and nobody forces you to use it.
Healing UI advantages are because the default UI is bad, if you design something that is functionally bad of course it will have a disadvantage, thatâs not the same as cheating.
If I design a car with the brake pedal in the back seat and an identical car with the brake pedal next to the throttle, yes the back seat brake pedal car is at a disadvantage because the person who designed it is an idiot. The answer isnât to ban the car with the correctly positioned brake pedal, itâs to fix the poorly designed/dangerous car.
You have zero experience in any organised content in WoW according to your armory, so to use the car example again, this is like someone who has never driven a car giving an opinion on how professional race drivers drive their cars.
Care to prove that? ![]()
You can clear heroic with a full raid of green parsers. They cleared heroic. So by definition they are heroic raiders.
Current version of SUF will break. Iâve looked inside its guts and someone will have to rewrite that, too. And the buff white/blacklisting will also break, much to my chagrin.
But honestly? other than showing the playerâs own buffs the default does a perfectly fine job by now.
Oh well. But I can live with that. When the prepatch hits I will recreate my Interface with what blizzard offers me.
Thanks for the clarification.
To be clear, SUF can be fixed. It needs to be rewritten as a skin for the default frames. You seem able to change the bar textures and all of that, and I see no reason why the 3D frames would break.
The aura filers will die, and so will large/small debuffs (that needs to be fixed on Blizzardâs end)
Most things can be ported but like itâs a complete rewrite. Like ag_UF â SUF level rewrite.
I play dis game from the start and sense the end of work I use my ui I cant and I will not use the game ui is crap Im. 42 years old Iâm not gona learn to use one worse product just cuse you want destroy the game up to bring it to consoles comes the pre patch day I canât have the game I play all dis years I return my epic edition a d disban my guild
addons are not needed.
I have a major problem with the personal health, mana, or Maelstrom unit frame. Tracking Maelstrom is extremely difficult and visually distracting. I am frustrated that I cannot make it look like a simple rectangular bar like in raid frames. This works for party frames but not for the single unit frame, and it cannot be applied to enemy frames either.
Additionally, the cast bar and many other elements can only be scaled diagonally. It is not possible to adjust width and height separately, which is very frustrating because the elements are not compatible in proportion. For example, if I scale the cast bar, it becomes longer or shorter than four rectangles in the CD manager, and no matter how I scale it vertically or horizontally, there is no fine-tuning to get everything perfectly proportioned.
The personal resource bar is currently a disaster. I have seen that it will be changed and improved for Midnight, but I am concerned that once again only some elements will be adjustable while others will not.
World of Warcraft is not âneededâ, it is entirely optional ![]()
Has blizz ever allowed this tho?