This literally skips massive grinds. You get raid ready gear, massive reputation grinds done. Not calling this blatant pay to win is massive coping.
This is it. I’m done. Retail is finally dead to me. I will play SoD until they introduce wow token, then, after 19 years, I will be fully done with WoW. The last bit of desire to play has eroded away.
Why this is a problem?
I have my main i have done lvl up, max the factions etc why i need to do that AGAIN for an alt? Since they are not account bound this is the next big thing.
Why do again all those story lines? I prefer to buy this and gear up my alts.
Again, if you’re mad about the boost now when it’s been here since mop, that’s on you for not knowing enough about the game to
Only reasons your getting all worked up is because you don’t know how easy but boring it is to grind rep, I maxed it with my first main so I’d rather not go through it on other chars like this one, although I did ED wth this one.
This isn’t new, so to get worked up about it now means your either blind or have been coping for far too long yourself.
In total honesty I think this is alright seeing as the core functions like lvling or experiencing the world, have all gone down the drain since people have midmaxed, in classic wow where lvling is supposed to be “deep” and “meaningfull”, people just pay to get carried through dungeons, the problem with lvling isn’t the game, it’s the players that force their way to the front.
If you tell me that’s not true and you would never do that, if you’ve ever rushed something or felt bad for missing a expansion release or gotten worked up over the early acces. Then you’ve been mad that you might “fall behind”, but if it’s ok to take things slow and not push for the top then why does it matter? The truth is we all mid max to our own extent and the game isn’t played for fun anymore, the rewards are fun and we like the dopamine hits. It’s not the game that’s changed it the players that force it to do so, cause we aren’t jobless grinding 17 hours a day, most people are 30-40 and don’t have that much time anymore, so a boost is only natural, this has nothing to do with new players, beccause new players will care about this the least tbh, they won’t be midmaxing, they will actually be having fun in the games base content outside of the dopamine hits. So please stop kidding yourselves, this isn’t new and the fact people think this makes a difference shows how hard we cope.
Way too much shilling in this thread. No game should sell skipping the game. This is why I don’t like mobile games and we used to call it cheat codes.
This is probably the worst example we’ve seen yet, and while the fact that it isn’t new is a correct observation, it is no excuse. I hate it all the same.
WHY will they not spend the effort to design game systems and levelling that makes it fun to have a new character that isn’t caught up? It’s unbelievable.
I’ll sacrifice a raid tier for it. With glee. Even two!
Cause lvling isn’t a thing anymore, people have their optimized ways of questing/dungeons to be as fast as possible, if you just sit their and lvl however you feel like it then you should be doing it for fun, and if it’s fun then just say it’s silly to skip it and move on, by saying that lvling to 70 is skipping the game then you may have missed what the game is, retail is designed to be enjoyed most at lvl 70/ the newest expansion lvling, so they aren’t skipping the game, their skipping a part that has long been abandoned and isn’t a core experience in wow anymore. It’s an activity you can do but to say that the thing you can do in literally 12 hours is the main part of the game, kinda makes me feel like you don’t understand the base playerbase of retail, it’s endgame where the new content is, it’s endgame classes that get balanced, it’s endgame that gets regular updates.
You can hate it and want it to go back to how it was but for better or for worse this is the state of the game so I’m sorry but I truly ddon’t understand why this is the decision that’s “too far”, their are far worse thing than skipping what for the average player is essentially the wait to actually get to play the class, seeing as alot of classes are ablanced a round tier sets (endgame content that even takes a while to get at endgame)
If they don’t want to make the game fun, the last thing they should do is ask for money to skip it. This is an entertainment company. Their job is to make sure we’re have fun whatever we buy from them without having to fork over even more immediately.
If some players only care about end-game, I can understand why Blizz wants to cater for them. I don’t know much about the competition, are there any end-game only equivalents to Leage of Legends? Maybe there’s a gap in the market Blizz are looking to fill.
It can just be argued that this catch up for alts should have been something that was already included instead of being something to pay the value of a full AAA game for each alt. This entire process is done automatically at no cost for the personnel at Blizzard
This is partly addressed in TWW though with the warband.
I do see however how in the mind of the company, a player with a lot of existing investment on the game and probably less free time due to a full time job and maybe a family, will still consider the 60 dollars to be preferable to the hours spent catching up traditionally.
Fun is what you make of it, you could have fun just pressing w and seeing your character move on screen, I’m not kidding I showed my grandma what wow was and she was fascinated by it, not like the features, literally just moving around was like magic to her, I haven’t seen her that happy in a while.
My point is if something isn’t fun then maybe it’s not meant for you, maybe some people think lvling is funner now then it has ever been, and they find the game so fun a service won’t even be noticed by them.
You can’t say your subjective opinion means that something is important or not, which is why I listed objective reasons as to why it’s a feature but not a core one anymore
but of course if you enjoy it all power to you and you can say what you want to say about it, you can even think it’s the worst thing since a particular panter became a politician, but we can’t forget that you should be doing what’s fun, whatever that may entail, so if some perrson doesn’t like lvling it’s not the worst thing for them to be able to skip it or I guess not do it the same way pve players dont pvp or way pvp players don’t do mythic plus, and if you enjoy both then you enjoy both, and if you enjoy both and lvling I envey how much fun you must be having in this game, cause in the end that’s all that matters
Oh btw
Yeah pvp players are literally in the “lobby screen” (valdrakken) while they wait for their match to start and then end only to see that “lobby screen” again, same thing with mythic plus, it’s another critique that the game has become a lobby game for which you qeueu up and valdrakken serves as a hub in the meantime, the only exception is lvling because some people see it as a tutorial to get to the hub if that makes sense
Thats the thing he wants to push his view and how he wants the game and he doesnt care about how many more players we lose. He basicailly wants retail to be vanilla again.
Which is a fair opinion that they can voice if he wants to, but they should also be aware that some might disagree and will be just as convicted as them. Simply the way of a disagreement, as long as we all understand that we all want the best for the game then we can work it out, it’s only once we abandon the game to it’s “doom” that something has gone horribly wrong
Totally agree with you but when you have a person that believes only there view is correct and everyone else is a shill its very hard to converse with them.