It wont be a long post, what else can I say enhancement shamans damage output is simply in a sorry state both in pvp and pve. Even with full bis gear my shaman is hitting like a wet noodle and dps rankings are solid proof of this. And what is weird to me is that in a game where everyone has a thing to say about a certain class why isnt there any ongoing complaint or atleast feedback regarding dualwield enhancement shamans? Is it the least played class or is everyone busy bashing some more popular classes like hunters/priests and what not? Aftter comitting countless hours and getting all that gear I just lost my motivation to be perfectly honest, the so called class tunings we get every now and then is simply laughable
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Shaman is stifled by the 25 cap, although yes we defintly arent a S tier dps. Enhancement shaman dps isnt bad really. Get the proper runes, and gear and it can output some nice dmg.
Issue is you arent a S tier dps.
Enhancement shaman is a tank specc in SoD im afraid.
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Mate as I said on my post previously I am full bis and you can count on me that I am using proper runes… thats not the issue here. Regarding not being S tier, we are far far from it and thats perfectly fine. I dont like playing meta FOTM specs but when there are several class/specs that are doing more than double ur dps… than this indicates that there is a serious balance issue
Also I forgot to mention since you mentioned enhancement being the tank spec, even tank shamans that are worth their salt are playing with full ele/int/spell power gear and are much closer to elemental than enhance. Even this indicates there is a serious issue going on with enhancement shamans
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Wait until level 40 dude. We’ll be crazy good and more runes to come.
We are top tier when it comes to tanking and like a tier when it comes to healing.
I can understand it’s not how you’d like to play, but the level cap stumps a lot of classes and we just have to make it work until phase 2.
Yeah, TBF enhancement was never going to be good at low levels. Welcome to the warrior life, hopefully you’ll get some scaling.
Talents like Flurry are going to help a lot, and you don’t even have windfury weapon or grounding totem yet.
Because Shaman is a healer and now a good tank. The dps spec is a meme. And it is completely fine for blizz for them to be bad. It might get better with rune adjustments but it seems they are fine with almost no balancing.
Casters are terrible atm and they are not doing much to help out. The wb helped a bit but the gap is so huge with melees that it hardly matters.
Because atm the addons which provide you with what is/isnt a upgrade, list shaman regardless of specc as int. So anything with int on basically is flagged as a upgrade.
Str/agi is stronger. But shaman is so overpowered as a tank right now it dont matter.
They just havent fixed the addon haha
I do agree shamans are lacking some key talents/spells to be more effective in this bracket/phase but I feel like scaling was and never will be shamans strong suit even in sod. High scaling classes like warriors, rogues and to some extent ferals are already doing way way more dps than enhance shaman (more than twice the amount in end game examples) and it will only get worse in future phases. Most of the replies were plain wrong however one them casters being much worse than enhance shamans… We have the data online about dps rankings so feel free to check whoever is interested. The only lackluster dps which is around enhance’s level (not sure after last buff) is shadow priests. Other than that every other caster is doing way better than enhance. Also shaman is in no way overpowered as a tank right now typical enhance/melee physical oriented tank shamans will be forced to be add tanks in end game if they wont chance how shield mastery works. You simply cant keep ur stacks on single target boss fights and go oom in a few globals which simply leaves u with ur heavy auto attack threat which is sufficient FOR NOW. There is no way shaman tanks can go toe to toe in threat with an endgame warr/rogue in next phases especially at lvl 60 with current balancing.
I think debuff slot has no limits in SoD. Storm strike scales with dual wield rune, plus it increases hit chance by 10%.
I believe we will be competitive with them.
Given tbe fact druids are both healers and tanks, while being 3rd top dps, kinda says otherwise.
You cant make one hybrid really good then shout hybrid tax at the second. Thats inconsistenf.
But aren’t druid worse tanks and healers than shamans though? I am not sure on top 3 either, though hunters / fury warriors / rogues had that.
Ferals are one of the 3 top dps classes and ahead of hunters already. While druid healers are perfectly fine and prolly on par with shaman healers I do not know much about feral tanks yet. I simply need more data but from what I heard only complaint was aoe threat which wasnt their strong suit anyways. I feel like as an upgraded version of a single target meat shield it will be the ‘go-to tank spec’ for hard hitting encounters if we get any. So I totally agree with Silent on the outdated idea of hybrid tax and its inconsistency.
You know what your real problem is?
You installed a damage meter and are now assuming that it is the measure of your success, not whether or not you are winning fights.
Retail truly has ruined us all.
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The truth has been spoken. I’ve removed damage meter addon long time ago and feels great
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It is what it is man. Early talents suck for enha. Thats plain and simple.
Don’t stress so much about the game. Give good feedback about more fundamental stuff and fun gameplay, not numbers.
Warrior life? You are aware that Warriors are now the highest dps capping at almost 400 dps at lvl 25?
Enhancement / elemental are next to each other, with only 2 specs below them. WArriors currently can do up to 8x the damage in AOE pulls, and 2x the dps in single target. All this is backed up by the logs, and in numers.
shamans, both DPS specs are nuked to the ground. And if you think late game, you will find Mail gear with synergises with spell power, and strength, and crit, you are clueless or simply have never played classic wow. It will not scale well compared to any other class.
Just think you can play a tank, but you wont even have windfury :D, oh and yes they have a internal cooldown on windfury incase you did want to play it as enhancement, so stormstrike with hit with both weapons… but your damage will be low due to stat priority and you cannot burst as mail gear after 40 is stat focused for hunters being agility (enhancement shamans do not gain attack power from this stat) so again enjoy slowly feeling weaker.
Just roll an OP spec and enjoy yourself, dont try kidd yourself into thinking it will get buffed enough to compete, it is so far behind it would require far too much tuning that it will never be a priority for such a small portion of players. Go hunter, go priest, or for late game, go warlock and just win.
Are you aware that this is the SoD forum and that blizzard have already created new items?
He does have a point in that it would take a lot to make enhance a viable dps spec. Sure, shamans will get more stuff later on, like a 20 second cd stormstrike lmao, but other classes get more stuff as well. Someone has to be bottom dps, sadly it turned out to be shaman.
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You honestly think, blizzard has made loot JUST to make shaman viable? When the class is effectively bottom tier of all dps? You actually think this? that they made tons of Mail items with strength, spell power, hit cap Oh AND spell hit cap? they have said they are going to rethink the new items as there is a lvl 25 caster staff which is pre raid bis for a lvl 60,
Despite all of this, you think that a few items are going to be made just for the class to work ? new to Blizzard i see, they are sort of still trying to fix the Bot situations and fly hacking… yeah dont hold ya breath for shamans lol
does it reaaaaaally though?
Hands up in the thread if you know what the level 40 runes will be?
Starsurge went from being useless to critical to spellcaster druid’s success, it really isn’t that hard to change some things.
class sets exist, aq set says hello.
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