EotS queue is longer than one hour at the moment. How are you supposed to farm marks?

Mate you seem to have bo idea about classic, shamans were oneshotting people pre bwl.
And you know what? I will say that horde wasnt ever worse in pve

Where have dev ever said that? I am really curious, atm only thing we can see is that about 66% of ally on eu plays on horde dominated servers

I really wanna know where did you came up with A:H ratio is fine

Watch the Ion and Preach interview on Youtube.

It shouldn’t be hard to fine, it’s the same one where he claimed people struggling to do content with low gear in the most most gear dependant Expansion ever created was a “Learn to play issue” and that the stat/power distribution hadn’t changed in 10 years.

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Cba watching it whole and it seems like tgey are talking about retail? If they said that retail pop is balanced then they are snoking some good crack

Oneshotting people every now and then is inconsequential in group PvP and saying horde wasn’t worse than ally in PvE is entirely, easily verifiably false. I could link you WCL rankings from every single phase where ally was completely dominant but you can look that up yourself.

Well, isnt horde saying that ally always prefered pve and horde pvp? Would you expect these results with that statement?
Like i dont understand the mentality, when horde are dominating pvp you are like “yeah pvp players just roll horde and pve ally” and when ally is doing better in pve you are like “ally is broken, no other explamation”
Balance in classic was debabtable, now its clear
And if you think that oneshotting frontline in pvp doesnt do anything, you are just clueless

Just read this:

Nothing more to say.

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Not a solution just like telling Allies to reroll Horde during P2 wasn’t a solution. Blizzard came in with the “fix” of implementing BGs like a month earlier than they planned.

Alliance not wanting to queue BGs is not a player created problem, or at least not one that Horde can fix. Blizzard already tried to counteract the imbalance by giving Alliance Seal of Blood. You can’t expect players to manually enact a heavy Alliance-favored imbalance just so there’s an equal amount of players queuing for BGs; there would be queues even if factions were completely balanced.

If they nerfed h racials it wouldnt be so bad, or are you one of the bois that thinks that the massive reroll was caused by upgraded horde visuals?

At this point, even if they gave EMFH from Wotlk to humans now AND disabled (yes, disabled) all horde racials, it would still change nothing.

It’s easy. Reroll.

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Honestly, the warning before you make horde character on any server should be like “warning, you try to make character with faction that is currently overpopulated in PvP realms and therefore your que time on any BG will be more than 1 hour”
And ally PvP servers should be something like “you are about to sign for faction that cant quest in open world and have to 20 min corpserun to any dungeon, are you sure ?”

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Maybe on a low pop battlegroup, but no that was not the case on the active “bigger” ones. Can’t speak for the rest though as I only played on the popular ones, but I had 1-8min average queues as horde. But even regardless if even was 1 hour queues 14 years ago, that is no reason to have it this way now. It must be adressed, and if anyone cares about “no changes” they would still need to cut them in a fifth of the current queues.

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I didnt even know tbc was coming when i made my char at launch of classic vanilla but yeah sure. I wasnt even expecting tbc nor that our character would transition to tbc if anything i expected a FRESH start of tbc like classic was.

How are you supposed to farm marks?

Easy: Reroll to alliance.

:sunglasses:

How is that “nonsense”?
Overall server population and faction distribution means exactly nothing for the purposes of BG waiting queues.

It was known from the beginning how BGs. work (faction vs. faction only)
It was known from the beginning that horde would have superiority in numbers among PvP oriented players.

What did people expect when they created the 1000000th horde character for PvP?

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roll ally. there’s a boost feature, stop whining

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A more cynic person would wish that you had never gotten your free character transfers during Phase 2 :slightly_smiling_face:

Well, i am actually pretty sure most of servers didnt have it, at that time it was only for rebalancing of pop, not to save anyone

Still a player created problems.

If you are a sweaty try hard min/maxer, then rot in hell. Your own fault.

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