Every DPS class should have a combat rez or bloodlust

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https://i.redd.it/965s5q7l31qd1.png

If you would kindly look at this chart before raging, it shows the % of specs at 2k rating in Mythic+.

As you can see, classes like Shadow Priest or Demon Hunter or even Hunter ( who can only DPS ) are barely in there, while classes like Mage, DK, Paladin, DPS Evoker are hugely represented. And this in a game where Evoker is like the least played class and has only been around for one expansion.

" But Priest and Demon Hunter can do other roles "

Yes, so can DK and Evoker and Paladin ( who can do all 3 ) and they’re still massively ahead of those two in representation. Either people aren’t playing those specs or those specs aren’t desired in high rating groups. Either way this needs to be addressed.

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And then what? Every class needs mass grip, every class needs sigils, every class needs to buff the group like evokers do, every class needs to have everyone else’s ability.

No thanks. Something will always be meta, doesn’t mean we need to make every class a clone of all the others.

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Mass grip is nowhere near as big a gamechanger as CR or Lust.

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If CR is that important to you get the Engineering Rez, and buy drums.

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Those already exist and they resulted in Mages being 5 times more numerous than Shadow Priests in M+ because they have every tool under the sun.

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Having a CR and Lust is not what makes anyone meta.

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Weird I never saw " Demon Hunter needed " in an M+ group’s description but I sure saw " BL/Lust "

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Well I guess you weren’t around for the DH tank meta or when they were meta dps. Has happened in various seasons.

However we simply wont agree on this. Needless to say I think classes should retain something to differentiate themselves from each other. So no thank you. CR and BL/Hero/TW /Hunter Lust is fine as it is.

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One button you press every 10 minutes isn’t what makes a class unique. Let’s go back to only Mage/Rogue/Warrior/Shaman having kick while we’re at it. The year is now 2004.

Clearly not since your odds of being invited to a high key are -5 times higher- if you play DPS Mage than if you play DPS Priest and -4 times higher- compared to Havoc.

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You clearly don’t grasp meta. Which is why I wont reply gain :slight_smile:

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I literally showed you the meta in the OP.

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The classes that aren’t “in there” aren’t in there because of reasons other than lust or CR.

Paladins have low representation as both healer and tank because there are better classes to fulfill the role.
Shamans aren’t very well represented as healers atm ‘because of their lust’. It’s because they have an excellent M+ toolkit and a kick on a very very short CD.
Priests have neither a CR or lust but are the second on healer representation.
Warriors are 2nd on the tank and 5th? on the dps representation yet they lack both a lust and CR.
DK tanks aren’t well represented because they bring a CR, its because they are the strongest tanks and largely self sufficient which incidentally frees up the healer to focus on other things.

I could carry on but the short version is your analysis is full of holes. I’m sure lust and CR are a factor but there is a lot more at play here. The biggest factor by far is that the high key pushers looked at a list of “best class in role” and went with DK for tank / shaman for healer etc.

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Well duh, you have 3 DPS slots for Lust, you can survive without the healer having it.

It really isn’t. Maybe the logic behind the percentages is faulty, but the percentages don’t lie. When you have a class that is in 1 key out of 6 and then you have a spec that’s in 1 key out of 33 it’s pretty clear that the spec sucks.

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There will always be classes that are in low demand regardless of utility, thanks to the average player who listen Andytuber691! who tell them that “insert class” is overpowered in their clickbait video.

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At what point does a rumor stop being rumor and becomes a fact?

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The moment the community decide it is.
(5 seconds into the video)

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And yet if you go on Warcraft logs you’ll find Shadow and Havoc decidedly under Enhancement or Ret or FDK. All of those specs that have superior utility or CR or lust, or a mix of the above. And superior damage on top.

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A percentage is what it is. It’s a number in isolation.

You’re attributing meaning to that number (in this case lust or CR) - thats where “the lie (interpretation)” starts to creep in because you’re deciding the reason for that % is “lust or CR”.

Hunters have lust yet almost no representation (their damage sucks). Priests damage sucks relative to fdk / enh / ret. Look no further.

Last season DH’s were the overwhelming majority of the top 0.1% of tanks and they had no lust and no CR. There are other things at play.

Honestly, you’ve done what tons of people do. You’ve got an outcome in mind (I want all classes to have a lust or CR) then thrown up a graph and waved your arms and shouted “THE NUMBERS DON’T LIE!”

(They do).

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Which basically means that even if blizzard gave DH BL and CR, people whould still invite enha because it does more damage.

So now you’re asking for utility plus dps buffs to DH? Or is it nerfs to Enha?
Sorry I am lost.

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But the gap would be smaller since you wouldn’t feel compelled to pick Enha because they have lust.

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