every game had a rogue and ppl tell me game is balanced XD
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Every game Rogues or Locks with priests, RMP still dominates, the game state is not in a healthy state AT ALL. I still cringe how they left all three rogue specs UNTOUCHED, assa pressure with vendetta/sepsis and overall poisons, sub rogue shadow duel, bombing etc. and Outlaw who is meme, best class in the game lol
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Really? Cause I never heard anyone who actually understands the game say that and I’ve been playing for a long long time.
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Noone is saying game is balanced. I mean we are talking about Blizzard game here 
but there are always rogues, mages and some others who saying they are fine 
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Shadenox will say Rogues are okay and you’re overeacting
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at least this week we had some variety like ww/outlaw, demo/outlaw and even TSG, instead of teams competing at who can reroll to outlaw RMP the best
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I actually never ever defended Rogues as a class in any thread for years. Everytime I type anything I’m one of the people saying 7s Kidney shouldn’t exist, CitS same, Shadowy Duel same, that Vanish shouldn’t be in the RB list, that Eviscerate shouldn’t be able to crit 50k somehow, and so on.
What you perceive as “Rogue defense” is actually “idiot bashing” on people that somehow manage to die to Sepsis which is so impossible if you have a brain that :
- there are almost no assa rogues on high ladder or tournament (which wouldn’t be the case if it was strong enough)
- the few ones that appear never play Night Fae (which wouldn’t be the case if Sepsis was good/better than SBS)
Make a difference. I’d be very happy if they nerf Rogues at least the way I think it should be nerfed. Not if they nerf non issues because random 1.8 players can’t handle it so much so that it is an issue for them when it really is so bad that 0 people play it on competitive games.
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It’s 40 degrees outside but you’ll get the biggest burn right here 
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Imo they don’t have to butcher rogues. Instead they should give the other classes more tools to deal with them and make it so that mistakes rogues make matter.
Rogue needs changes, simple easy quick changes I could do on my lunch break, I would do it literally code everything If they let me. Change outlaw cdr, sub, shadow duel, assa sepsis (poisons) thats it i need 30 min to write the code for it
- outlaw - x vs outlaw - x
- outlaw - x vs outlaw - x
- outlaw+outlaw vs outlaw - x
ROFL
Sounds like the issue lies within outlaw and not within rogue class as a whole?
Also there aren’t that many outlaws in normal arenas either outside awc. All I see furies, and recently dks and demos.
this would only be true in a 3v3 setting where there might be a possible answer.
Aside from that, there are several specs that cannot survive a sepsis opener because they just don’t have the defensive tools to survive.
E.g. Shaman
so while the game certainly is not balanced around 1v1, these things should not exist. Also anyways nobody in their right mind could say that this game is balanced around 3v3 either lol
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trinket wall + aegis and you survive.
Shaman needs to use wall AND earth pet, and still Sepsis almost goes through it all - and all are gone once the next sepsis comes, because shaman won’t have trinket or wall or earth pet for the second go.
I don’t understand people justifying Sepsis because you “should wall”. Sepsis should not oneshoot an unwalled target, period.
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I know you don’t like my opinion normally, but I’m with you. Can’t remember if they’re was another spec than Outlaw in the awc, but reduce the cdr and Outlaw should be fine or not?
Then we can have a look at sub and assa
The balance in WoW is super odd.
I came from Daoc, which had checks and balances in place for classes.
Giving stealthers access to high burst, high CC amounts, high survivability and multiple gap closers seems bonkers.
Where’s the downside? Where’s the balance? The reason you’re seeing rogues in every match is because it’s a bloated class with no downsides.
When your comp favours having two of the same class, with the third being a healer, which you know can beat every other setup, that class is just too strong.
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i trinket walled with earth ele and pumped heals, still died
rogue was equally geared of course
Of course. You haven’t entered an arena for 2 seasons now btw but yeah.
and now?
ran out of arguments already while trying to defend rogues as usual?