And even then the most hardcore would still prefer to stick to the horde because it is the faction with the biggest player pool.
With cross-faction weâre not asking to drop the factions and everyone becoming the same. Weâre just asking let alliance players play with horde players in raids.
Man let guilds be cross-realm and auctionhouses, This solves everything.
People are free to choose their race/alliance without being punished for choosing the wrong one just because of endgame being so sided with horde. Man even in the Jaina raid alliance players turned into horde characters, itâs stupid that we cant raid together on high levels.
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No it wonât, it will just transfer the imbalance.
A solid post with good arguments.
Sadly, the proposed changes wonât change anything because what matters is player base and man power. At this point, itâs like picking between 2 banks, you tend to choose the one who has the largest available funds, because it would mean better guarantees.
I do think one solution would be allowing a PvE mercenary mode for grouping even in LFG. Bod proved thatâs possible. Imagine for a second that Pvp is cross faction, the game mode weâre supposed to kill each other, whereas PvE, which is about cooperation, does not allow that.
I also read something about faction loyalty : If Blizzard agrees with that, then MDI teams would be forbidden to roll Alliance if they are not playing Alliance on live servers.
Thatâs why iâm glad youâre not a decision maker.
You want a 50~50 balance of power to become a 60~40, to tip the scales.
Basically, what you want for imbalance is a freebie handout to everyone who joins alliance while horde just bites the dust.
Which is why, like i said, convincing you is harder than tryin to talk to a brick wall. So i pass.
You discuss things with people that want to act with some level of logic. Not with those who donât.
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Which I think, is the general hope.
I believe many of these alliance posters arenât interested in the âequalityâ or 50/50 for each side - what they want is the Alliance to be superior in every regard as a permanent thing.
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The racials are not an issue as some one other topic already mentioned how alliance has already slightly better racials than horde and top guild would switch to Alliance. Thing isâŠfirst, there is no longer open world PVP like there used to be so choosing a faction loses lot of its value. Second, it is very easy to switch factions/play on both sides, so again the faction loses its value. At this point there is no longer this âI am allianceâ fanboy thing, because everyone is on both sides and factions in that sense are not relevant any more.
one other thing that can work to, is to remove the racial restrictions, where any race can join what ever side they want to, and at same time, change the horde and alliance to something else, this way you still keep 2 factions, but anyone can play on what ever side they want to.
this would not at first offcourse change much, but people would have the option to join the faction they want to be part of, be it lore or asthetics, becuse there are already horde players who say alliance looks so much better, but they are horde due to more players there.
only other option I se, would be to remove factions all together, but that is a realy hot topic, where the players are scattered all over the place.
no they dont atleast not the majority, most what I have seen are talking about removing factions instead, and let people play with eachother instead, something that probably have to happen, unless Blizzard comes up whit a solution that truly works.
For as long as people follow like sheeple youâll have this imbalance. It doesnât matter what the racials are, what the lore is, it all comes down to FOMO behaviour, or the fear of not being on the better/cool/winning side.
Developers make a joke of the Alliance. In-game and also in their interviews, Alliance players are made fun of everywhere and people follow that mentality. As a result it has become very uncomfortable to be Alliance. I personally donât mind, because I prefer being the underdog and I can handle the adversity/teasing/judgement, but most players canât stand it and it wears them down. When they then see more and more guilds and communities move over itâs no wonder they follow.
I really donât think itâs a game mechanics issue. Itâs a mentality issue that has gotten insanely out of hand. And the only way it can be âfixedâ is if people stop flippinâ caring what others think/say and just play the game the way they like.
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Nice. At this point nobody can make the argument that the Horde isnât the better faction. I think youâre in part right in your post, but also in part⊠very wrong. I think the main reason for this is the small âstoryâ favoritism that Blizz has for the Horde - we get the spotlight all of the time. The motivators behind the story are the Horde - the villains are ours, and the villains get the spotlight. This makes people more likely to roll horde. And the Horde (as in the players) has the more hardcore culture, where from very little we are kind of conditioned to try and be better players.
I think Blizzard is setting up Anduin as a villain, and this is where the balance will get fixed. The Alliance hasnât been in the spotlight since⊠vanilla. Look at this - TBC, Outland? Thatâs the orcish world. WoTLK - Arthas, came from the alliance, but really the focus there is the scourge, the undead. If someone came after that trailer, Iâd assume they are likely to be attracted to playing an undead. Cata - thatâs a neutral one, but Thrall kills Deathwing. MOP - started out neutral, became a Horde expansion, with Garrosh and Thrall being the lead. WoD - the cinematic is just about orcs. Legion⊠I donât know here, I only played the Horde side and it was very much about Sylvanas⊠and BFA - literally Sylvanas sets everything in motion. Her screaming âFOR THE HORDEâ in the trailer inspired so many people to come back to WoW⊠some to even try it out for the first time.
Of my multiple mates who started playing due to BFA hype (btw⊠BFA hype was close to WoTLK hype, not even joking)⊠all of them rolled Horde. They didnât check stats, they didnât google which faction is better. They just joined FOR THE HORDE.
Ultimately, I think a major problem is that Blizz loves writing The Horde, because the Horde is chaotic and as such theyâre just more fun to write. If they manage to get a good villain to rise out of The Alliance, it would be good for the health of the game. The Alliance deserves an expansion where theyâre the villains.
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alliance is biting the dust for years. time for change. youll play elves on alliance as the fotm ez mode picker you are regardless. x0x0
Easy mode picker huh?
Iâm someone who decided on coming to horde, because my friends play as horde. Should a day come when they decide to move to alliance, Iâll do to. But i guess youâre one of those who thinks of themselves as superior simply because they chose alliance.
I think you best stay in RP servers.
No dear child, we donât want him.
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So play with your friends and let alliance be fixed. Stop being spiteful 
The only random proc one you have is the void elf one. The others are either activatable (LF draenei racial and dwarf racial) or completely passive (Human racial, stock dwarf racial.) They are stronger because of how well these passives scale (and it is the reason why most crit reliant specs have Tauren or Dwarf simming for highest.)
Still, it is not the on use DPS racials that make or break fights, but rather the utility ones, which Alliance has plenty of. They have the best racials for M+ and as far as I know for PvP still, and they have their uses in raiding as well.
It is all about the mentality now, not about the racials.
I also recall that Alliance had the racial advantage at the start. It is why Horde got Blood elves to try and even the huge faction differences out.
Um no. Horde had the best Racials but were ugly. So blizz added a pretty race to attract more. They also added an op Racial to it and buffed horde Racials even more. So horde became the pve faction alliance had human Racial trinket, so some pvpers remained. When it was nerfed alliance died
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Lol, no? I want to play the race/class combo I like thats the only reason.
I dont want to be punished because for some messed up reason all the proper raid guilds are moving to Horde. So Now Iâm being put in the position of; I canât progress in the game, Or I have to play the race/class combo I dont enjoy and pay for a server & faction change. (Yes need both because of being on a alliance dominated server.)
50/50, even 55/45 is decent, But it ainât that anymore when it comes to the proper raid guilds, like 75 percent is horde if not more, and thats only increasing because with every new raid more guilds realise its in their better interest to go Horde.
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As someone that pugs a lot, I experience this every time I log on. I experienced this towards the end of Legion and throughout BfA which is why i stopped playing again and again. It isnât fun when killing one boss in a PUG takes 6 hours of waiting for people to sign up. Or getting a group for an m+ is so difficult.
Rather than make the switch to Horde like most of my friends have Iâd sooner stop playing. No amount of anything could make me go Horde because what the Horde is, the kinds of toxicity in the players, as well as my love for Night Elves wonât allow me to make the switch.
A solution would be to do more than give a tiny buff to warmode.
The racials need to be buffed massively to attract min-maxers which overtime will restore balance. Thatâs when you return the racials to their previous state
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I do not want any form of cross faction play. It is the worst possible outcome to make it cross faction IMO.
Iâve hated it in other games and generally those games have only done it when their player numbers are very low. I donât think player numbers are the problem here.
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Cross faction is the removal of the factions.
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