Faction disbalance aka the eventual death of WoW

Cross faction is the solution tho, Why restrict players to only play with their own faction when sooner or later 70 percent or more will be Horde.

Alliance will die out because right now, everyone tells their friends to play horde because of everyone already playing horde; just causes more people to go Horde instead of considering Alliance.

You’re horde, so you dont see the issue here, we alliance players do. We see it and feel it everyday. Horde dominates not just in PvE also PvP and it has been for a long time now and it’s only increasing.

Cross faction gameplay would allow me, the guy that likes the human race and the alliance aesthetics/mounts to play with people of the Horde in M+ and Raids.

Cross faction isn’t the removal of factions, there’s still the beef and lore you’re just unrestricting players from actually playing the game which is more important than lore.

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Lol yes it is, it’s absolutely the removal of the factions. What sense does it make to have alliance and horde if we’re just friends who do everything together? The reason alliance and horde exist is to fight each other, not to hold hands…

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I don’t think it is the solution. I think it’s the death of the game. The worst possible thing to do to it.

There is no going back once you’ve destroyed the factions.

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And then they write stories where the factions are irrelevant because we always unite against a common enemy. What you are saying is nonsense, since the story supports faction crossplay.

So what is a solution? Your ideas? Removing war mode bonus for horde when alliance already get more bonus? Or taking away things from the horde and adding it to the alliance? Your “solutions” would just reverse the current situation and everyone would go to alliance and then that would be why people would ask for faction crossplay.

They suggested an actual solution, you just don’t like it and try to discredit it for no reason. Faction crossplay would be beneficial for everyone except for the few delusional people who think pvp against the opposite faction is what keeps the game alive.

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If thats all you can say, maybe help come up with a better solution then because the way it is right now isnt healthy and ruins one side of the game.

You’re in the horde, you dont feel this whatsoever and all you have to say is it’ll be the death of the game; bruh how can it die when it allows everyone to play together opening up the world to everyone. Just because a alliance player joins his horde friend in a raid? makes no sense…

You see thrall and anduin being kinda friends aswell lore wise, so if thats your reasoning it’s nonsense.

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If you read the OP again, you’ll see that the question he asked was “how can we fix the faction imbalance”, not “should the factions exist”. That’s why I say saying “just remove factions” isn’t a solution, in the context of what this thread was about.

If you wanna argue that the factions shouldn’t exist, go make a thread about it, don’t derail this thread by going off-topic.

Cross-faction, isn’t getting rid of factions; it’s simply allowing players of the alliance to play with people in the horde.
Also mythic raiding is restricted to realms, same with guilds; why don’t we have cross-realm guilds/mythic raiding yet.

Ya’ll really think anyone gives a banana about which faction they’re in when they are mythic raiding or doing m+ keys. No…
They’re in the alliances either for their friends/guild, power or aesthetics.

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They might just make factions like covenants. A semi-permanent choice, but you can switch after some lightweight rep grind.

The factions can still exist as an individual entity despite cross-faction pve. Secret world did it wonderfully.

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Yes, it is getting rid of the factions. How do you not see this? The alliance and horde exist to compete / fight against each other. If we’re not doing that, what sense does it make to have factions? We might aswell merge every race then into “new alliance” or “horde with friends”, it would be absolutely laughable to have a alliance and horde faction if we’re suddenly doing everything together, as if the last 15 years of the game didn’t matter anymore.

Mercenary mode.

I just dismantled your entire argument.

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Shorter que times and faster group making and not punishing race choices will be the death of the game!!! But seriously, every argument against cross faction in this thread started and ended with a nice Game of Thrones season 8 reasoning, “idunwantit”.

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Then tell me, whats a better solution because having the majority of the endgame playerbase be Horde completely screws the other side of the game.

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No you didn’t, but yeah, I agree, mercenary mode should absolutely be removed, it’s a system that only favors horde and brings nothing positive to alliance players.

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Literally anything other then merging factions is a better solution.

You do know that the mercenary mode got introduced because Alliance players were complaining about long queue times and in its beginning during WoD it was nearly permanently active for the Alliance?

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Last 2 expansions we actually end up doing stuff together. Can’t really remember the previous ones, but I suspect it’s more or less the same.

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I mean we just had an entire expansion focused around killing each other, but sure.

I love how this is always the answer from some. That’s not how it works. Your solution breaks the very basic premis of the game. That does not mean I have to counter it. It means that I do not like your suggestion. You are allowed to like your suggestion.

Leaving the game as it is, would be far better than removing the factions. However I don’t think that is a solution either. I do not know what can make the Alliance actually stay Alliance and not defect to the Horde. I tried going Alliance for one expansion and I didn’t even last until the end.

It is not a racials issue, it is purely a ‘the playerbase have abandoned the Alliance’ issue (and continue to do so). I do not know what they can do to reverse that. The Horde haven’t always been the more popular faction through the game’s history.

It is actually easier for an Alliance guild to have a chance to get into the Hall of Fame than it is for the Horde where there is much more competition. The HoF is not a motivator though. We always have to wait for the Alliance to fill their 100 before cross realm mythic is unlocked.

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Don’t know. My Horde character is too busy killing minions of an old god, while working together with the Explorers League in Uldum.

Also don’t ignore my point about the mercenary mode. It was introduced because from Wrath all the way to Legion the Alliance was the dominant PvP-faction. It only changed after everyone got a free CC-breaker in Legion essentially removing the OP-human-racial (which also got nerfed at the same time) which made Alliance so much better.

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