One more thing, that has gone stale in WOW, is having two factions for 20+ years.
How would you people want to see WoW races reshuffled?
Example. I would personally make factiions more lore-friendly by doing this.
Move all elves to no-troll allowed elf-exclusive faction. Or at least all elves, except the night elves. Elves hate trolls dah.
Move all dwarves to alliance. The alliance IS dwarves.
Split forsaken into alliance light forsaken and lich king forsaken. At this point, sylvanas loyalists dont have anything to do in the horde, and humanloving forsaken can be reunited with relatives, so why not.
Move goblins back into neutral only gold matters faction. There is even a capital city now
Move pandaren into neutral faction. Always has been a mistake for them not to be neutral
Calculate, that the majority of the horde is now trolls, as too many orcs died and undead quit.
Resulting factions:
-Elf/high-elf faction
-Neutral goblin faction
-Scourge-like undead faction
-Neutral pandaren faction
-Horde dominated by trolls or separate Horde and separate Troll empire
-Alliance
One of the many reasons why the faction system was fundamentally flawed.
It doesn’t make sense from the story they have told us.
It doesn’t make sense to split the playerbase in two across an invisible line only applied to players.
No because people who started playing long before you did , picked the race and faction they wanted to be connected to there chars and make it part of there back story espcially those on RP realms its a silly idea.
i started playing on europe launch, so people who started playing after me are a minority and its statistically unlikely you are one of them.
therefore, your argument of you have played longer and therefore can put the idea down on the basis of occult knowledge we, the lesser players, dont have, is a silly small ad hominem.
next.
how would you handle the whole faction thing?
are you thinking like choosing a faction after the character creation during your character’s adventure or?
For me, its a really strange thing, playing as a blood elf and having to go to orgrimmar
Undoing it would be extremely difficult due to how the quests have both a Horde and Alliance side up until SL. Even then, you get reactions based on your faction.
Back when BFA was still current, I was hoping the story would have taken an entirely different course:
Baine opposing Sylvanas for attacking Teldrassil and seceding from her Horde, since Tauren oppose destruction of land.
Goblins only showing interest in how to make money, and getting expelled from the Horde. They team up with Tauren out of necessity for survival despite having entirely different ideals.
Night Elves finding refuge in Azuremyst Isle when Teldrassil got attacked, since it’s the closest place next to Darkshore, and presence of enemies there was very scarce while Darkshore was teeming with Horde
Tyrande exasperated at the Alliance for not reacting swiftly enough to protect Teldrassil and seceding from Alliance
Dreanei, being the ones who were introduced to Alliance by the Nelves and being the ones to help them in that time of need, join the Nelves in their new faction
Our characters caught in the middle of helping everyone at the same time, which would make every faction expel us for “treason” (ie. not being 100% loyal to them and them alone) and therefore we’d stop being Horde or Alliance. But the citizens/denizens would still acknowledge us for our deeds and letting us in their towns and encampments, except at just Neutral status. Effectively we would become mercenaries that could go everywhere.
So we’d have a 4-faction system (Humans/Dwarves/Gnomes/Worgen, Night Elves/Draenei, Orcs/Trolls/Undead/Blood Elves, Tauren/Goblins), with repeatable quests that would sway our reputations so that we could be Exalted with only 1 of the above and reducing the others to the minimum of Unfriendly (or Neutral, basically the lowest where we can interact with vendors)
This would manage to keep the war going on and simultaneously get rid of the current Alliance/Horde divide.
Oh right, Allied races would follow suit of their “main” race.
I talk in general chat. Who can reply? Orcs, Goblins, Trolls, Blood Elves… Gnomes? No, no gnomes, no dwarves either.
That’s a restriction.
It makes the game feel just that much deader. In the past it worked, when servers were livelier and there were more people.
On Alliance, on our server, yes, ours, Warloor. LFG chat is active. People talk there.
On horde, LFG chat is dead.
If there was no barrier between chats, then we’d have a much livelier server.
Finally. Why do horde speak Orcish? Can you imagine your blood elf speaking like an orc? ZUG ZUG, MUKKRA! LOK’TAR OGAR, KEK!
Everyone should speak common, that’s what they speak in lore. More on that point. Why do humans forget common when they become undead? Undead used to speak gutterspeak, which is a variation of common. Now it’s called “Forsaken”.
I’ll often wave at a random alliance player, and they’ll try and talk to me. Because quests in the dragon isles literally encourage opposite faction players to talk to eachother. One of the very first quests in the waking shore, encourages you to do this.
But you can’t. Because there’s a language barrier.
There shouldn’t be.
If Blizzard want to keep that barrier there in PVP, that’s fine. But for the rest of the game it should not be there.
I say let us players be separate from the factions.
We are adventurers and we are organised by a guild.
Now we can work for both factions no matter the race cause both factions accepted the guild and there adventurers as neutral.
That has the benefit that you can keep the factions intact and even let the conflict get interesting again.
You can make zones where a conflict happens and then players can work for both sides or in some zones you can make it a choice thing where you choose wich Side you want to support in that particular conflict.
And this would also help with lore reasons for new races.
You don’t need to justify why race X joins the horde.
They just join the guild that exists for everyone that wants to try there luck as a sellsword
None arguement , you said nothing of the view i present and btw unless you are playing on a different account from the 2005 one you claim then you are lying you started in 2015.
Yes, because this is my WoD account. I am sorry, if the fact I am the real veteran between us two, hurts you.
But your personal attacks are boring and are a waste of storage space and electricity.
Go ruin some other topic. I will be reporting every next ad hominem message from you as spam.
Yep, seems extremely difficult, but is it as difficult as what they did in Cata?
So you would agree to just remove them?
Like no more horde/alliance made up dichotomy?
well this is smart in terms of avoiding too much resource investment by just allowing people to manage their factions relationships themselves, like drive it below or above neutral themselves.
but i still think, that faction composition is off, and no way there should be dwarves and elves in the horde.
I wonder, if anyone ever said this to blizzard’s face and what kind of mental gymnastics is at all possible to answer to this in any way then “we will fix it next patch”?
i still dont agree with blood elves being in one faction with trolls
I mean let’s be real for a second when they gave us blood elves they absolutely not cared for the lore.
They needed a pretty pretty race to help the horde.
They atleast tried to make it less strange by making them “evil” elves with the whole mana hunger but that whole deal got dealt with in the same add-on and since then they are functionally high elves
Thank you, I’m taking that as a compliment.
Luzy said I’m pretty. <3
Edit: Though lorewise it makes some sense. Garithos was horrifically racist toward us, and that chased us away from the Alliance. Kinda like how Tyrande was nasty to the nightborne, so they joined the Horde.
i was buying zeppelins from goblins in war 3 as a human
turalyon and arathi are an archeological artifact from the past and still they speak with everyone
considering so many high elves are working for “evil” factions, such as legion, void etc., i would even prefer them being a separate faction.
when tbc came out, i would actually prefer to play for illiadan versus horde and alliance, since i played war 3 and in my opinion outland based faction with capital there is much cooler for me personally.
So its evil blood elves for some, but i am a sunstrider loyalist
garithos WAS racist, but not as racist as trolls i think haha
