Faction specific server capacity

Let’s be honest here, most PvPers go Horde, because they’re terrible players and need the OP PvP racials to carry them. If Blizzard gave humans EMfH and made Stoneform remove all CC effects, most Horde players would roll Alliance.

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alliance is stronger in group pvp though

That is another bad generalization, but we are derailing the topic here.

Neither racials nor the “cowardice” of one faction is the reason of faction imbalance. If that was the case, alliance should be more populated, since there is more pve players/raiders than pvpers in wow.

The reason why horde is more populated imho is about the fact that a lot of people followed the discussions before the release and most big guilds picked the horde side and eventually a lot of people followed them. And as I have stated earlier, once there is a significant faction imbalance, it just grows bigger and bigger, since more people will reroll on the dominant faction over time.

yet the best pvp guilds went alliance, because despite horde supperior pvp racials, paladin is just OP in group pvp and so alliance has an edge in wsg and later ab prems

Could be true… I would say the average skilled PvPrs go horde; where is alliance is composed by other try hards or players that view PvP as a side activity. Try hards which are by definition much better than thier average horde counterparts roll Alliance for easier rankings also:

  1. more horde to kill in opvp.
  2. easier to steamroll wsg with superior premades due to Paladins.
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Absolutely… I struggle to name a handful of hardcore top or try hard guilds that rolled Horde… they are all pretty much always been and still are Alliance…

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You are an absolute bellend, end of story… nothing “schizophrenic” or “mad man” about that fact, at least.

If you be a c…t yourself, you will always come across d…ks in your life. That is a life lesson for you.

You come into the thread, and throw some complete idea of bollocks “alliance don’t participate in PvP so that’s why”.

  1. That is pure speculation.
  2. That is irrelevant to the original post.
  3. That is totally incorrect.
  4. One faction having a lesser population on many servers currently is a fact, it is not a debatable issue.

Regardless of the reasons, faction imbalance exists in many servers. That is not an alliance only thing, on many servers, alliance is the dominant faction. Check only one of the data sources available:

http://wowpop.appspot.com/

So the suggestion posted in the OP has nothing to do with how alliance or horde players behave. It goes for both factions. Your speculations are wrong. People pick whatever faction suits them in most servers. (is more populated)

On EU servers:
Ashbringer
Dreadmist
Mandokir
Pyrewood Village
Mograine
etc.

are alliance-dominated.

Shazzrah
Gehennas
Skullflame
Noggenfogger
etc.

are horde dominated.

So your blabbering is senseless and you are solely trying to derail the topic. I wonder why!

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To the OP I think this is a great idea. I had this very same thought the other day. Apart from changing the game up there isn’t really any other way to help address it. If the game can’t change then the population rules would have to.

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Your “sources” are as useless as your existence in life fitting enough… laughed so hard at the “life lessons” part too… And laughed harder at half of your list of domination… It is ok… you can get your epeen fix on these forums since you are without a doubt a peasant in the real world :joy:

I have sources to base my claims on, you have mental issues. I speak with numbers and data, you speak with your nonsense beliefs.

And your baseless speculations about me are similarly wrong. I won’t even dignify your schizophrenic beliefs with providing any more details on the matter.

Check the census that I posted and shoo away.

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No further details necessary… after all I wouldn’t want to get your kind too mad… at the end of the day gonna be needing you all to cook my food and clean my toilet :grin:

If its like current server limits (warnings, queues), then it might work. And so simple. I like it!

Blizzard is against hard limits - for a good reason, since nothing says “This is bull, I quit!” like being told that you can’t join your friends on X server, ever" - whereas being on a high pop server with a queue is just a matter of how badly you want it.

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Thanks for the constructive reply.

My suggestion has no hard limits, however. One can always join a faction or their friends as they wish but if they choose to do so on an imbalanced server, they should accept possibly waiting a bit longer in the queue.

I genuinely think that we can’t find a solution without paying some little prices here and there.

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Since when where numbers the only factor in dominance?

What about skills?
What about gear?
What about time investment and persistence?

We need to design ques factoring those as well then…

Which hasn’t worked for almost 8 weeks and the data is so skewed there that it’s useless.

To clarify, I meant that it was good because it had no hard limits.

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It seems to me that you argue only for the sake of arguing. After all this time not a single argument by you succeeded to make any sense whatsoever.

Yes, the census doesn’t work for 8 weeks since Blizzard blocked these census/poll addons on the API (I WONDER WHY THO?!)
So that is unfortunately the most recent data we can have. If you have a more recent source, feel free to cite it or you can keep spewing nonsense as always.

Also, being old doesn’t make it irrelevant in any logical way (you don’t have a logic so you can just skip this part). As of the end of september, most people have already reached level 60, as the census shows and it is very unlikely that they will delete their characters and start from stratch on the opposite faction which is totally dominated. So by default logic, the clear faction imbalance on most servers should be equal to what this census shows us or it has gotten worse. I can’t think of a situation where in a game like classic wow, in which levelling a character to the max level is a massive time investment and commitment, 15000 players in a single server will delete their max level characters and switch factions for no reason in 8 weeks. Only a weirdo, I’m afraid, will think after seeing those numbers, that a 85% alliance - 15% horde (or vice versa) server will be balanced all of a sudden. And as we all can see, most servers are massively imbalanced in terms of population, from this latest census that is available to us.

@other people with some logic:

Phase 2 coming tomorrow.
Y’all ready for the shizzle show?

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LoL what? Horde haven’t always being the most popular in pvp… Alliance faction often dominated most pvp servers during op human racial. Horde players would constantly complain about the inbalance on the forums.

Just take Outland as a example that had a disgusting alliance to horde ratio.
People like to follow the herd. If every popular person plays horde, people will follow, vice versa.
People change factions all the time in WoW, and most people have played both factions at least once.

The problem is Classic realm population was created now and not in the past. Meta, game knowledge and player habits are different. People have been given few realms to choose from so it’s obvious most will pick realms with their faction in a better spot.

On vanilla pservers ~50/50 was achievable in terms of active players but that wasn’t 50/50 PvP participation as everyone was on one realm - pvp or not. TBC pservers do however have problems with high Horde population from what people were showing - and it comes to sometimes to add things like faster leveling ratio for Alliance characters and it still not enough.

So right now it’s quite hard to get any faction balance. Retail is a domino effect and Classic aside of it specifics will also follow with the faction tilt.

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