Ah, fair enough, sorry. I thought you were vouching for removal of racials or something like that. Or maybe a mirrored situation like Tauren and Dwarves.
You might like the term “malding” if you are truly getting mad and are balding over this. Though, I do agree with you, it’s rather daft.
I think the main fear is that cross-faction guilds will take away the Factions completely and that that will remove a major part of the lore.
I personally worry about that too. Considering how favoured the Alliance is in the lore, it’d really get me malding hard if the Alliance started dictating what Orgrimmar could or couldn’t do.
I also feel that if the Faction Rivalry is not preserved, the game will get so much softer and therefore blander. It’ll lose a bit of depth. Even at this point, we really do need some friendships broken and bitter enemity reawoken among the leading cast.
We need Jaina wanting to cleanse Dalaran again and Orcs getting pissy at the Night Elves for not sharing their sacred trees for lumber.
That’s all just the story though. That shouldn’t really affect Guilds. As I’ve said, guild groups work outside of their Factions’ laws and could easily end up working with memebers of the enemy to further their own causes.
The whole WoW cliche is that the Factions call a truce to deal with whatever major big bad has interupted their way this time round. It could happen again.
If needed for a raid or dungeon, you can easily just make the party all LOOK like the majority faction using glamours of BoD mechanics.
Thread ended by Grumblemore. Thats a fine reply and final word on it all in my opinion.
I think you encapsulated everything there is to be said there about this in this reply.
Make time your friend… Right now both blizzard. And the player base alike are burned out on the faction war trope. But Blizzard should know their fans this this much at least. And why we are all so into it.
It might take an expansion… Maybe even two. But i doubt they will just move away from faction conflicts and identity just like that.
Oh, 100% I don’t expect there to be a war alongside every new external threat to the world!
The Horde-Alliance War lasted from mid-WotLK all the way through to the very end of MoP. We had a brief pause in WoD before a series of heavy skirmishes broke out as we were grinding ourselves silly against the Legion.
We then went immediately into the War of the Thorns weeks after Sargeras penetrated Azeroth. Then straight into the Fourth War as the Alliance sought revenge.
Honestly, the Factions might remain rivals but they surely are tuckered out!
We have BGs, PvP Quests and in some cases WPvP to tied us over until a new Faction conflict can start up. That’ll do for now - just as long as this isn’t “the end” so to speak!
Awk, do Blizzard look at the EU forums? Thought it was all on the US or nothing!
The two big scares are that Blizzard will listen to the fewest but the loudest or listen to no one at all. They seem to have no issue doing the latter time-in, time-out.
Not to get too negative about it. We’ve seen what crap they can serve us and call it “peak story”… I’m just hoping that they hire in some modern-age Tolkiens that think longer than the next set piece!
Oh i think they do… Simply because we are much easier to follow.
The US forums are much more populated. A thread or reply over there drowns away in other threads and replies in minutes even. Its much easier to follow us in that case.
They have definetely started to listen to player feedback allot more since before Shadowlands. That much is noticeable
Opinion about them listening more? You might not be wrong, to be honest, but I am rather cynical.
Shadowlands crashed and people began clamouring louder. So they’ll throw a few things out of the emergency bucket and listen until we quiet down again.
Whatever new requests we make now, if they don’t get implemented, will just go into that bucket for the next stormy quarter!
Maybe there is a different “Faction War” going on between what the community wants and what Blizzard sees as worth implementing!
All I have to say is… Considering Blizzards new approach these days. And us fans continually giving them our feed back about what makes us fans of their game and not.
I must admit im anticipated and curious what the next expansion after Dragonflight will be.
If Dragonflight is their ground work for their new approach to their game design.
I can only imagine how it will be like when faction war and such becomes their next expansion.
Oh, I try to be hopeful but we’ve already been burnt by BFA after Legion!
I’ve had this very conversation about how good it seems things are turning out to be with a mate of mine just before the end of WoD.
Prepare for the worst, but hope for the best. No issue at least trying to make them see sense. Just a case of not being surprised IF they flop over and start to snore again!
It will probably not be about faction conflict. Next expansion to be honest. But that doesn’t have to mean it wont be a thing at all.
I give it next expansion. Maybe the next after that tops xD before we are back at it again with some good old Horde versus Alliance confrontation. In my personal opinion.
I sweat to god, if the next expansion is some sort of “Rising Tide” affair with us sailing the South Seas, plundering treasure and exploring islands then I may snap.
That is literally my idea for one of the expansions that BFA should have been split into. Would have been all about getting Azerite and Allied Races. Queen Aszhara woukd be the big bad with a special guest appearance from a mad “time-lost” Garrosh.
After that, funnily enough, my BFA would have been a proper Faction War expansion!
We will just have to wait and see… It might be about Azarah as the main big bad for all i know.
But a BFA faction conflict we will have to wait a while i think… But thats not to say faction confrontations and stuff wont happens at all.
But a complete turn away from factions… Nha… Not even a shrill like me would support that.
Hope that next time it happens tho. Horde wont become the painted obvious aggressors and bad guys… I miss the old days with the honorable Horde under Thrall as Warchief.
Wait, do you mean Azshara? Or who is Azarah? Considering how they’ve faired with “classic” big bads in the past, I wouldn’t mind them taking a break and giving us someone new. Well, depending on who we get as the final boss of Dragonflight.
(Really hoping these Encarnates actually last a while rather than being introduced and dying in the same raid tier. Similar system of bosses in BFA and Shadowlands didn’t help.)
It’ll have to be a very long time before another “BFA” Faction Conflict. It’s too soon after BFA itself and honestly whatever Horde vs Alliance war comes next would have to make up MASSIVELY for the failures of BFA. The Fourth War was like a failed burp and you gotta wait a while, recharge and load up on cola and mentos before trying again.
We’ll definitely probably have some Alliance and Horde characters fall out and have a small tiff but I doubt we’ll have any new BGs or Arenas from something like that, sadly.
Funnily enough, the Horde never declared war while under the leadership of Thrall or Garrosh! Varian Wrynn declared the Horde/Alliance war after the Wrathgate Disaster in Northrend. That war continued even as Garrosh was passed the mantle of Warchief.
The War of Thorns that saw Teldrassil burnt down was a stupid moment of the Horde’s free will being “subsumed” by the writers just for the sake of story. They were evil, just for that moment.
We definitely need a good war started by the Alliance and won by the Horde. Anduin declared the Fourth War and promptly won every major conflict (Stormgarde, Darkshore, Dazar’alor and the second Seige of Orgrimmar). Not really fun if there’s no to-and-fro.
you cant let one side win and piss of the oterh side, even the whole ordeal with teldrasil was an hard hit against the alliance which pissed of many blue player because well hordecause maore damage while undercity was evacuated and its annoyed horde player because they are again the bad guys. insering the “are we the bad guys” meme
this is something a certain blood elf wont understand, they woud tip teh balance of power in azeroth if one faction win and coud dominate the oterh faction and pracily remove them.
THAT you piss off many and not even blizzad woud be dumb enought to do so…
Queen Talanji would seek revenge for her father against the Alliance when the Zandalari regain their strength. The Darkspear would want to carve their own territories at some point. Zhul learned how to take the power of the Loa. As the power source of the Trolls they would not want the Alliance learning of these secrets.
That’s a massive issue with Blizzard though. They are too scared to add a bit of drama. A bit of depth.
Thr balance doesn’t always have to be there. Both Factions will still exist and the tides of power will change.
The Horde could occupy Stormwind for a few patches. Similar to how Varian was missing for ages, or when their precious garden was destroyed. It doesn’t remove the Alliance.
Or they dobt want to piss af one of the faction and their playerbase.
Yes, who want to play the facttiom who is on the losing end.?
Because the alliance did it as the sere in Mop or later in Bfa…oh wait, they didn’t because that will be a massive outcry by the Horde player if that happened.
The alliance had the chance byt didn’t it , so why ahoud then the Horde to be allowed that?
