I love BG. Especially gear. But i enjoy every part it however getting kicked out bg at the last 00.15sec is uncalled for. i wasn’t even afk I was doing my part. now got 15min debuff no bloody reason. fix this. you cant just allow ppl kick random people for no reason. stupid make me doesn’t want to play bg at all.
WG is so predictable it hurts. The attacker shave to do everything right in the first five minutes or they lose.
- Attack SR from the south.
- Get people inside the workshop room to prevent the defender from mounting.
- If the defenders mounts the attackers lose.
If any step fail the attacker can either leave or wait out the timer, which is twice that of the Derserter debuff prior to any tower falling.
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Agreed. Please balance WG better.
Defence is much easier than attacking, and I’m fairly certain that whatever stats would show a) defending teams win the vast majority as well as b) the attacking team has vastly more deserters than any other BG (which would indicate the futility of attacking).
Some tweaks could include reducing wall health and removing respawning from keep cannons (or extend the timer).
Feels like it should be easier to break in, and it feels like defence pretty much has to not actually defend in order to lose.
Hi all!
So been casually playing random BGs as normal…
Just now have had not 1, not 2… BUT 3 Wintergrasp battlegrounds consecutively!
Each of these - Horde were on the attacking side, it’s very hard to siege the base in the current state as it is when Defending is pretty much Guaranteed victory!
(For my realm win condition usually goes to Alliance anyway but that is besides the point)…
Me and the raid group(s) just wasted almost 3 hours of our time all because of the very one-sided games we just witnessed, they certainly felt like fixed games to me! This will likely to continue if nothing gets done about it.
I’m sure this will be fixed soon as i’m sure a lot of players get sad about it.
Thank you for your time reading
Please give us the option to blacklist up to two epic battlegrounds.
Epic BGs nowdays as AFK honor leeching place, only semi-active is IoC, when actually people at least do something. Other are disgusting bad and zero fun at all.
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So in Epic bg if enough ppl report you. You get kicked out instantly. And u have said that if u get kicked out its ok…
So why in earth you removed the reporting system in Classic AV when ppl wanted to kick afkers there instantly to make room for premade group players. Something doesnt add up…
You want majority of ppl have the power to control who they want out/in (Ashran Epic Bg Instantly kicked if u get enough reports. "Doing the Fragment quest) But you dont want majority of ppl have control who they want out/in (Classic AV changes that were a F fiasko…) /clap
Hi Blizzard! Please remove Wintergrasp. You did not really think that through. It’s awful. Thank you.
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AV: i dont really like the change with the elite npcs.
they have life of raid bosses and hit as hard which is just bs.
ive played on both sides and aliance still has a HUGE advantage there.
iceblood tower/towerpoint elite can be glitched by aliance so it just stays at the bottom on the entrance and does nothing.
idk how it works but its pretty bs, since the aliance npc chase u all around the bunker when u pull it.
frostwolf base is WAY easier to take than dun baldar still.
u can still bypass most of the npcs in horde base, the tower archer doesnt even seem to shoot ppl for the most case, while dun baldar has tons of npcs, archer shooting as soon as u leave the bridge and an elite npc roaming there.
ashran:
could be a good bg, but lately became a shtshow with premades playing annoying hide and seek or just hide in base the entire bg. there should be a penalty for hiding in base and waiting for npc to kill enemys.
wintergrasp:
still a no brainer for defender. attacking side has to win the first fight or its an auto lose already and even if they win its still pretty easy to defend. worst bg ever made and i hope it finaly gets removed soon.
ioc:
people are still too dumb for it and getting siege engine destroyed at the base without even doing any dmg to the gate.
also theres tons of ppl afking in general doing the bare minimum to not get kicked.
theres no point in afk voting if the person has 1 min to remove it.
there also should be a bigger penalty for ppl leaving midfight. 15 min is a joke. it wastes more of my time getting in a wintergrasp attack with like 35 min left that isnt winable anymore.
also the ppl feeding kills especially in alterac/ashran need to be straight punished.
lost way too many close games, because those ppl decide to feed kills so its “over faster” and wasting the time for everyone else.
i would also love to see more epic bg maps that are focused on pvp, so no pve crap and no vehicles.
take tol barad for example.
Edit:
the honor controbution in bgs also needs to be rewoworked since its plain horrible.
honorable kills need to be bg wide or there need to be some other kind of buff defending objectives.
cant blame people for not wanting to defend objectives just punishes them for doing so.
for example defending solar sphere in ashran or ref/quarry in ioc u mostly get like no hks which means way less honor than just beeing in big zerg. people need their honor for either upgrading gear or farming honor lvls. way too many times i sacrificed my own honor gain just to win a bg when i could just zerg instead and get more honor from losing afterwards. that system is just fail.
Hi there,
So it’s no secret that Blizzard makes money out of time. By selling me game time for financial gain and essentially wasting my time or capping me makes me spend more money for your financial gain. So time = money. Now my favourite part of the game for the last 13 years ± has always been “Random PvP”. I play about 2 and a half hours each night. However a minimum of 2 hours is spent playing against premade PvP groups fighting my group of random players, we have no say over ilvl or tactics essentially. So we 40 players make a raid party depending on ilvl with a strategy I believe the"Random" element no longer exists. Therefore my time has been wasted and you have gained financially while I have suffered a loss financially. If I choose to leave the battleground I am penalised with a 15 minute debuff followed by a 15 queue to rejoin another battleground ( most likely Vs a premade group of Russians yet again).
My suggestion to combat this exploit has always been that the second a party turns into a raid group, that team should be qeued against another premade raid group in PvP (regardless of how long this might take as they are clearly exploiting to farm honor). But in 13 years nothing has been done.
I recommend now that all players past and present who have ever faced a premade group in PvP now have grounds due to financial loss to start a class action lawsuit against Blizzard for reimbursement for the time you have wasted sitting in a 40 minute epic battleground being farmed by a premade group in a falsely advertised “Random battleground”.
I’ll start a petition which I will post here for every single player past and present who believes they have suffered a loss of time/money due to this exploit since the start of world of Warcraft to sign. If Blizzard cannot prove beyond reasonable doubt that this has not happened they will lose and be forced to reimburse every single player involved.
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Change the reward for winning to a daily and you get the daily done by eather 1 win or lets say 2 games played. And that goes for all bgs.
It really feels really crap to just join already ongoing bgs that is a 100% loss.
By change it to games played ppl might stay in the bg atleast and get something out of it instead of just afk out after 5min when something goes wrong like it is right now.
I’ve noticed that in Alterac Valley that there is an NPC, Commander Mulfort, that is at the horde base GY. The alliance don’t have an equivalent npc so that the horde can easily tag the alliance GY. Alliance often fail because they have to spend a lot of time on dispatching Mulfort. It seems a bit unfair.
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Thanks a lot for removing Kleptomania from fire mage and keep it on frost & arcane. fire cant be playable on bgs. all the buff i have got removed by 1 click, and cant do anything about that.
nwm i can still cast fireball, who needs combustion, right ?
I think we have the dwarf that walks around on the ram instead
The best you can do to improve BG is:
-Remove Russian players from EU BGs
-You should mark objectives in the map for teams to do. If the objectives are not being captured the BG should have a limit time. This will reduce the amount of BGs where you just get farmed on graveyard.
This is specially bad because they force you to leave the BG and get CD to join again.
Why should I wait 15 min to join again when the enemy team was not even playing the BG properly? Is just no fun for anyone.
-Make proper guides of how to play the RBG/BG. every day is someone asking what to do. Epic battlegrounds are just no sense for new players.
You probably won’t read this blizzard, because you don’t give a **** about your game. specially on PVP. So sad
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we noticed you promote the premades nothing else
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Biggest change you can make is remove Russians.
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Leveling through bg’s, why is every bg Wintergrasp? Been like this since you separated f2p/vet accounts.
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AV and Isle of Conquest are cool but ASHRAN is absolutely bad BG i dont know how but 90% of this Horde win and when join me on this sick bg i leave because i hate this rly i haate this and leave many many start after 5 sec to join me. #BlizzardDeleteAshran
I am not a Russian but I love the way they play BGs, they do it right.
Instead of complaining take notes and do the same.