Man i meet maybe 1-2 premades every 10 games after this change. its totally fine
You’re quite delusional if you don’t think the alliance didn’t have that many premades in classic. considering it was meta.
Let’s use the math from earlier, Let’s be incredibly generous and say 20% of all Alliance players were premading.
Sample size of 10000 people at once makes for 2000 premading and 8000 pugging. 10 players per Warsong Gulch so 200 premade games and 800 pug games.
The probability of you getting a premade 8 out of every 10 games comes out to 0.001073741824%.
Edit : Hell lets even be more generous than that. Let’s call it a 50/50 toss up between premade and pug. The probability that you will get 8 Premades in 10 games is 0.043945% or 1 in every 22 runs of 10 games.
that’s a very egregious maths, its purely based on assumption which doesn’t take into consideration, honor per hour in pugs, time spent to get x amount of honor, and the classic mentality to min/max the game till its dead.
its clear that you didn’t rank in classic.
Best change ever! Having a few hours to play in the evenings, a 40 min queue for each BGs made it so you never got to enjoy that part of the game. Thank you very much for bringing BGs back to the game, I desperately hope you will make this permanent <3
What does honor per hour and min/max mentality have to do with the validation of maths?
The odds of you getting 8 Pug games out of 10 with VERY generous 50/50 odds is 0.043945%. You could push this further to even 70% change to get a PUG and you would still only have this happen once in every 4.283 runs of 10 games.
The math simply does not check out, You are either exaggerating or outright lying.
Alliance gained nothing and lost an advantage, is that so hard to understand?
okay ill simplify for you because clearly you are a bit slow. to get to rank 14 capping at bracket 1 would take 11 weeks. to cap bracket 1 you need to be in the top .5% of people on your server with honor.
your assumption implies that causal people are doing bgs for fun which would make it mathematically impossible to group with premades 8-10 times. which is 100% not the case.
The math does not check out, Take AV for example. Running AV was essentially mandatory for a lot of people so they could get rep items so yes plenty of people were running BGs casually for a number of reasons.
You act like R14 slots were not bought and paid for.
Yes. Nice elementary level math there. It’s just that your assumptions are wrong. Whenever I did pug BGs it was against premades 80-90% of those games. Don’t remember what phase but it got better towards the end of classic, maybe that’s what you base your maths on…
Math doesn’t check out, Even in the most generous of circumstances that kind of consistency is next to impossible.
You are wrong because your assumptions are wrong. Those ppl on alliance who are not interested in PvP are not all queued up for BGs so you can’t base your math on that.
Alright, Let’s get into it then.
What server did you play on in Classic, What premade discords were running and how many were there on your server. How much were the Rank 14 slots going for in USD and who ran the brackets/pool parties?
your math is based of casual people, of course it doesn’t check out. how slow are you?
buying rank 14 requires a premade, but there mathematically impossible.
Are you seriously suggesting that less than 20% of all Alliance playing BGs in Classic were not playing in premades?
Quite literally not possible, Ranking rotations only work if people follow the caps. If you have as many premades are you are suggesting competing with you the selling of R14 positions simply does not work. What server did you play on in Classic, How much in USD were the R14 slots going for, Who ran the brackets and organized the pool parties.
Details please.
you are aware that all the EU servers play against each other right. its not server to server bases right? what server i play on is irrelevant, the pool size on one server is different to another. the bracket sizes are different per server.
More than aware, I’m asking for information specifically on the number of premades being ran on your server. So again I will ask you :
- What server
- Price of R14
- Who ran the brackets/organized pool manipulation via alts
I have no idea, I pugged my ranking. which was clearly stated.
So we’ve established that you have absolutely no idea of the premade metrics and setup on your own server. Yet you are claiming to speak with authority on the numbers across an entire region?
You genuinely don’t know even how many premade groups were running the brackets on your own server?