Fel corrupted Dracthyr RP

It’s the same thing in the end: they have his power running through their body. It’s just different means of acquisition.

That’s what you keep saying, but the relevance of this difference eludes me, and is seemingly your own headcanon.

That is what I also think: Blood Knights are a subset of the Paladin class, in that the ways they acquired their power and their previous history is unique to them (and arguably some of their fighting techniques are different from other races - for example, they might prefer swords over maces) but they are very much paladins in the same way in which other races are paladins.

Just don’t tell Dracthyr RPers that.

Full disclosure idk if anything’s changed since the expansion dropped but I saw more Evokers than not back when they first launched, which is fair, they are what you the player are saddled with and the lore’s out of the way for once, but it was super weird.

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No? Blood knights wielded the power of M’uru first, then the Sunwell (some through faith / prayer like priests), but Paladins are infused and empowered by the Light 24/7.

Isn’t the difference obvious? Paladins (lower-case P) are holy warriors wielding Light magic, Paladins are holy warriors infused with the very essence of the Light. They are more like Lightforged while paladins simply wield the Light like priests do.

It’s literally not even headcanon. Anduin, as a priest fighting in plate armour, would fit the bill of a paladin. But he isn’t a Paladin.

Maybe it’s the slow realization that the dracthyr appear to be modeled after Jani, Loa of trash, rather than actual dragons that have put these ideas in your head but maybe give Dragonflight more than two months before trying to break free from the constraints of the race you’ve chosen to play.

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Akshually, Dracthyr are just the spawn of Subject Nine having ended up on the Dragon Isles thinking it’s a new world ready to be colonized.

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I want goblin monks too just to see the for-profit karate schools get set up.

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The Sundered Flame ambushers are rogues.
Dual wielding daggers, using stealth and energy.

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Personally I think a fel-corrupted drachtyr requires too many hoops to jump through to justify it, just because of the fact that they never even encountered fel magic before they were put to sleep, and were already snoozing for 10k years when the Legion first set foot on Azeroth. I see little reason why one would decide to not only embrace that power but also side with the Burning Legion ( which got absolutely owned and is now probably in a state of demons fighting for control amongst themselves anyway).

But, that’s my two cents.

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Zaphius.

A Blood Knight justifies the means by the end.

A Paladin justifies the end by the means.

Two sides of the same coin but BK’s are not subject to the same morality which makes a Paladin.

Probably not great to jump on the “Dracthyr rpers am I rite??” bandwagon. Considering how much flak Vulpera were getting until the next new trendy thing to dislike took their place xP

Apologies if you were being light-hearted! It’s hard to tell going by only text.

But on the topic at hand, I agree with Dargeus.

:joy:

After such a literal story, you’ve won my respect. Sounds wild, but yeah I mean give it a shot if you want. Nothings stopping you

Out of curiosity, where might one find these remnants of the Legion?

Asking for a friend.

I was dw, I’m very aware of the silliness every barebone newly introduced race goes to hence the banter. I’ve seen enough Pandaria born Vulpera or ‘Artic’ Vulpera to see the signs or a needlessly convoluted origin story or power levels.

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But paladins don’t have to be subject to that morality (ie. scarlet crusade paladins).

Its not because you made it up from your headcanon, one that contradicts canon lore.

Anduin, which you mentioned, is never referred to as “paladin” in the canon, and instead he is called a priest. This idea that he is as much of a paladin as a blood knight is frankly outright incorrect. The idea that you use a capital P to define the paladins you like is also outright incorrect.

Wait, blood knights aren’t empowered 24/7? They need to recharge their iphone Light batteries or something?

Paladin that are blood knights are also empowered 24/7, mind. You haven’t made any distinction here. Also, human paladins can lose their powers (see: Jorad Mace), so it’s not technically true that the Light is always with them, not that you’ve said that, but your statement is a bit ambiguous in that regard.

I see the LF as much closer to the Light than paladins. They’ve been altered physically to the point they manifest the Light in their very body all the time. It’s more radical than human paladins.

No? Of Blood and Honour and Rise of the Lich King are both very much canon lore, which depicts the ritual in which Paladins are made.

What’s the difference between Anduin and a Blood Knight? An increasing number of the latter are wielding the Light not through the Sunwell, but faith and prayer. But I don’t use a capital P to define paladins, I use capital P to differentiate Paladins of the Silver Hand from the in-game class.

No, they just wield the Light like priests and sort of mages do in the case of blood knights drawing Light from the Sunwell.

Blood knights are not empowered 24/7, unlike Paladins of the Silver Hand who are knighted in a ritual that sees them empowered by the Light in a way not too dissimilar to the Lightforging ritual. It is true, yes, that Paladins can still lose their connection to the Light if their belief falters, as was the case with Jorad, Tirion after his excommunication and Arthas himself after Stratholme, who remains the finest example of Paladins being empowered by the Light 24/7. As Arthas’ belief and conviction begins to falter, his warhammer grows increasingly heavy.

That’s the meaning of ‘more like’, not “they are exactly like Lightforged”. Similar, but not the same.

Both are old books of which you’re offering zero quotes from. There’s no way to decide if what you’re saying is correct by you saying “trust me, it’s in this book.”

Also, I read Rise of the LK and read Telaryn’s quote about Of Blood and Honor (which is bre a super outdated book) and neither made a canon distinction between paladin and “Paladin”. The only thing that maybe you’ll find is a term “holy warrior” or cleric being tossed around, but it’s not a relevant one, and definitely doesn’t apply to draenei paladins and blood knights.

Furthermore, this distinction doesn’t exist on websites such as wowpedia, who work to find what is canon lore and what isn’t.

Anduin is a priest, Blood Knights are Paladins.

Which is a mistake.

Care to elaborate further?

Blood knights can very much use the Light’s power at leisure, and have been infused with the Light’s energy itself. There is not a single instance that suggests they can’t use the Light’s power 24/7, just like the paladins of the Silver Hand. The same can be said for your average draenei paladin, seeing how they usually fight alongside manifestations of the Light.

i don’t get myself near at concepts for dracthyr who aren’t present in-game.
it may be that some dracthyrs can get fel corrupted, yes, but still, it’s a delicate subject to touch since we know very little about the race itself.
i think it’s just best to not go this far with the concepts and keep it to what we know (just my opinion ofc)

I mean, they are, you can just debate how they are empowered - old guard by using M’uru’s powers by literally draining them, or new guard by using direct connection to the empowered Sunwell.

It is up to people to decide if blood knights abandoned their practice of trialling new recruits (as the quests were removed from the game) or if they are much more lenient due to their connection to Sunwell, but outright say that they do not feel “empowered” by the Light is wrong. Even basic blood/high elves, who believe in Light, are empowered to a degree that their eye-colour changes.

Putting on my yes hat for a moment i would argue
A dracthyr could stumble over legion elements and become corrupted
considering how the sundred flame keeps stumbling around assuming every secret the dragons kept is some kind of weapon, it wouldn’t be far fetched for a unit to accidently find something legion related.
not on the islands mind you, because they were shut off before the war of ancients if I am not mistaken, but who knows what other little secret vaults the dragons had all over azeroth, of which some could contain legion material.

Take it off!