You can massively change Frost DK and do nothing for Cat.
Amazing.
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What’'s wrong with feral?
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For a more streamlined rotation all they have to do is get rid of snapshotting, then remove Brutal Slash and Blood Talons. Tiger’s Fury could also get the Thistle Tea treatment to remove another keybind, but i think it’s not really necessary.
Well they removed Tiger’s fury reset and they took our attack range, leaving us with nothing in their place.
We got two new talents in TWW that literally nobody uses.
Don’t you remember the first months of The War Within?
Feral Druid’s play rate was abysmal, they had to buff it, buff it and then buff it again for people to start playing it.
Feral was just made boring, left in the gutter.
Nothing wrong with either of those two talents. But Swipe is 100% dead for AoE content which blows mega chunks.
Issue is no Bite refreshing Rips below 25%.
Issue is all you do is Bite, Bite, Bite, gets boring and tedious.
Why did Ret keep their 20y melee range but Feral, whose had it since Vanilla, lost their 5y? Devs are just awful.
Tiger’s Fury needs GCD reduction and Zerk/Incarn needs the same and need buffs.
Being able to get multiple Apex procs instantly and only ever use one.
Energy and Haste talents are decent but not great.
Why doesnt Double Clawed Rake function for Lunar Inspiration and give 2 Moonfires?
Adaptive Swarm is mega boring and Convoke doing healing spells isnt fun for a DPS player.
I really miss Tear Open Wounds from Dragonflight. The Primal Wrath reapplication playstyle was way more fun than just bite bite bite. Tedious AF.
If I wanted to I cud reroll to Arms Warrior and spam Execute.
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brutal slash is clunky, swipe unplayable
brutal slash only there to compensate the slow energy reg, wish they just buff energy reg to some extend or nerf the energy cost of bite/swipe.
and this + healing spells what dont even actually heal.
Meh I don’t see enough wrong with feral for it needing a rework, a buff to regrowth healing would be nice but i think in terms of gameplay its in a very good spot at the moment and the new tier sets looks very cool and interesting
you realise this would cause us to bite more right? which you labeled biting as “boring”
Single worse suggestion I’ve ever seen
No it doesn’t why would you give a class that doesn’t use something every gcd an effect that reduces their gcd 
, also berserk is already insanely good and is a large part of our damage it does not need a buff.
Because it was essentially a maintenance buff that provided very little in terms of gameplay similar to how everyone hated pressing slice and dice constantly on rogue.
Not sure why people have this fixation on swipe, Brutal slash has always been the more interesting option if you want to spam swipe on aoe maybe try out feral in mop i guarantee you will get bored instantly
They need to make Rampant Ferocity trigger all vines fr it’d complement the new tier set so well.
They also need to make bleed strength trackable through default UI.
Those are the ‘reworks’ I’d do to current feral, really, the gameplay itself is good and fun. (also aura buff by +100% thanks)
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Zerk isnt good. Its a wet noodle if what it used to be. And Incarn is even worse. 1 Re-stealth opportunity down from 3 in BFA?
Its a sh!te 2-3min in a spec that doesnt really need a big CD.
Design spec around TF.
I’d have Bite refreshing Rip and less procs as execute than what we got now - just mindnumbingly spamming it.
You know, we all have different opinions, there’s not just yours. Grow up.
missing already the old feral 4set… was a good time
the other post was unfortunately closed, so I’m writing it here, despite our bad start, I apologize, lets start from new, without throwing bricks to each other
Predatory Swiftness still a gatekeeper talent on left side vs Dreadful Bleeding. How has this not been fixed yet?
Raging Fury is basically useless bcos +5secs isnt anything compared to +10% bleed dmg. Again, i ask, how is this still so poor?
You’ve properly ruined Feral from DF to TWW. You’ve just taken away Limb from DK, please REMOVE SWARM. Its such a boring talent.
Make SOME or ANY interaction between the energy talents there and other abilities.
AND PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP CONVOKE FROM CASTING HEALING SPELLS.
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I like swarm
And I don’t think feral needs a rework.
Raging fury definitely can see plays in m+ with dotc
That said predatory swiftness should be baseline so does pouncing strike.
The later is even a middle finger to feral since every other spec has it baseline with rake.
And I would love to have decent offhealing but regrowth and rejuv are utterly garbage.
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Shamans been changed 3 times since DF. Ret Paladin twice? Now Shadow and Frost DK.
Boomie’s had a run, Bear too.
Feral has had nothing. Its only lost assets since DF. And we still have poor talent nodes where one is far superior to the other. Raging Fury or Incarnation, see very little play.
You removed Swarm for Resto, do the same for Feral. Its click n forget on cooldown.
Stop 1minute Convoke from casting non-spec abilities.
Thrash isnt fun on ST. Its barely fun on AoE. Its a remnant of a bygone era. Remove it for Feral. I’d much rather play Moonfire than Thrash.
Make DoubleClawed Rake work on Moonfire too. Let it have some use in M+. Or change it to Sunfire if you REALLY wanna go deep into a crossover between Moonkin and Feral.
Many specs are now built around cooldown reduction but you removed it for Zerk and made it a flat 1minute cooldown removal. Why? Make it like in Dragonflight.
Or Make Tiger’s Fury’s cooldown able to be lowered by casts.
You’ve just made Empower Rune Weapon a button you click constantly for Frost DK. You’ve shown the players you actually CAN improve specs. Do it ONCE for Feral
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Mate, I couldn’t disagree more. I think mechanically and gameplay wise it’s in an absolutely amazing spot. Hands down the most fun spec for sure.
Yes, it’s keybind heavy, yes you have a lot to track and it’s not easy to do well on but god damn, is it fun to play. SO much utility and outplay potential.
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Theyve added nothing new to Feral since DF, just taken things away.
How is that amazing?
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Latest PTR Patch notes:
Feral: Nothing.
I refuse to believe Druid is the most well-rounded class so far with all specs so well designed and balanced that they can just focus on all the other ones. And I do mean EVERY_SINGLE_OTHER_ONE.
Only JUST recently started playing Rogue again and give me a break do they have many idiotic abilities and passives where 1/3 could easily apply for Feral and make it way more fun and interesting.
But no, not in these devs minds. Just bite till button on keyboard or mouse dies.
Dude just stop playing feral. You clearly hate it.
Devs aren’t going to make feral a rogue with self healing. Different class. Different spec. So it’s pointless to compare.
Leave feral for those of us who love it and go find a spec that ticks all of your personal boxes.
So wanting actual productive changes to a spec and class that only sees reductions on a yearly basis means hating it?
Either actual READ what I’m writing or sod off.
You’re so angry bro, you need to chill out and calm down. I’ve read all of your posts, all of which have been non-constructive except for one.
You clearly have a default mentality that removing buttons from a spec means that they automatically become objectively worse.
Ferals rotation to many of us feels great. It’s extremely keybind heavy, especially for us PvP’ers, so pruning can be a win. I don’t think every change they’ve made over the past 2 xpacs have been great but the way you’re crying about the spec is ways off.
Again, many of us are really enjoying the current iteration of feral. Our views are just as important as yours.
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