Feral Omen of clarity nerf

Glyph of omen of clarity will now reduce all physical damage with 5%.
The change is live on PTR with build 51505.
I wanted to take the opportunity to bring some statistics into light.
While I do not know how well Feral will scale with full ICC gear I doubt that Blizzard know either. There wasn’t enough time to have solid numbers on this.
A few runs in TOGC gear is not representative and could not be compared meaningfully with other classes.
So here are some numbers from last weeks.

Top TOGC Feral DPS: 14809 DPS Overall Rank 123.
Top TOGC Warlock DPS: 15691 Overall Rank: 15
Top Combat Rogue DPS: 15189 Overall Rank: 51
Top Mage DPS: 16589 Overall Rank 1
Top DK DPS: 15826 Overall Rank 6

Last week entries/parses from warcraft logs per top spec of each class:
Demo warlock: 175,385
Aff warlock: 228,554
Fire Mage: 381,408
UH DK: 224,088
Surv Hunter: 212,928
Fury Warrior: 227,400
Feral Druid: 131,650

Ferals are way down in numbers compared to other DPS like warlocks, UH and fire mages which are frequently stacked.
And compared to those we are also WAY down on the DPS meters in the average group.
Also there is rarely more then 1 Feral per group.
I can speak from experience because I am the only one in ours. The leaders requested the new guy to reroll Affliction or Boomie.
We are less represented even compared to survival hunters.
We have 3 times less entries then fire mages!

Add to this the fact that we are one of the hardest rotations from every class.
Since a lot of people will say that this is subjective you can see the deviation of DPS in warcraft logs.
Compared to other we have 5-10% bigger gaps between average DPS and top performers just because the rotation is more complicated.

And now we get 5% flat nerf on top of the nerf from the fact that we got a glyph?
Really Blizzard?

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bro this is wotlk. hybrid tax still applies, pure dps classes should be top DPS. if you want everything the same play retail.

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truth is ferals never needed a buff in the first place, now that they buffed them , they probably realized they will be too strong in icc (which is the raid classes were balanced for with classic talents),oh and you’re not supposed to do more dmg than a pure dps class bein an hybrid and and unique buff bringing class ( let alone combat rez), so your point just doesen’t make any sense

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So no hybrid tax on Paladin?
Top tank, top heal and buff on retry?
The opposite applies to Hunter which is also low down compared to Hybrid classes.
Your logic is seriously flawed.

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I just posted numbers that we are down on DPS and you are telling me that Ferals are doing more Damage?
Can you at least give some proof?
You are speculating that we are going to scale better but no one knows that.
And I agree they should not have buffed any class. But they did and now its too late for that.

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Feral is still above Ret after the nerf. Ret is mid tier.
Check the " WotLK Classic Phase 3 DPS Rankings - Week 14 Trial of the Crusader" that was just posted on wowhead.
So looking at this after a 5% nerf you will go down ONE spot to compete with Enh. This is in TOGC also not in ICC where Ferals will excel.

If you expect Affli/Fire/UH DK dps on a class with 4 viable specs you’re laughing. You don’t see Mages crying to buff Frost or Warlocks to buff Demo when its bottom of the pack.

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They should’ve removed the glyph completely.
Balance changes don’t belong in Classic.

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can you list me the tank only or heal only class plz?? and yeah, if retri overperforms due to the buff they gave , they should just revert it

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I can’t take you seriously with arguments like:
They should be nerfed because it hybrid class.
Ferals are above retry.
You will only lose one spot.

And even worse with completely false ones like Demo lock being bottom of the chart.

If you are willing to present actual data supporting anything I am happy to have real discussion.

They should’ve removed the glyph completely.
Balance changes don’t belong in Classic.

I don’t think they should either. I am just saying that additional 5% is a big nerf.
And I agree. They should have never started with balance at all!

I have no opinion on the feral nerf but this is a completely nonsensical statement that hasn’t even really been true. The top DPS in Vanilla was Warrior, which remained in the top 3 for all of TBC.

The top dps in WOTLK has been Unholy DK, another Hybrid. The “Hybrid Tax” has never been real, the game has not been balanced in this way.

This part is also nonsense. Have you played retail? Apparently not.

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The glyph still out weighs the 5% nerf and feral is still higher than if they would be bearweaving like in p1/2.

-4s on rip (your main dot), -5% physical damage.

The worst compagny ever. Buff, and then nerf you 2 time in a row.

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I wonder why a bearly see some specific tanks in raids? Or as of lately there was deforestation amond healers in meta guilds. I rarely see more that one owl in raid an it never flies except for AoE scenarios due it’s RNG rotation. 4 specs, yeah!

Why?
They aren’t gonna bust out and start topping healing meters because they went into caster form mid-fight.

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No it does not. Your logic is stupid just as your comment.

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not a nerf, actually 500 dps increase over bearwaving according to sims, truth is, you got overbuffed and in icc they needed to cut the buff by a tiny bit, but it’s still a buff compared to the original feral in wotlk

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So glad we’re doing our best to keep the game closer to original wotlk as best we can :metal:

remember in og wotlk when ret pal had hand of reckoning glyph and Divine Storm buff? Remember when tiny abom was a massive dps increase because of the divine storm buff? wait a second…

wtf is the point of this nerf blizz
“we looked at all the classes and did nothing but punt feral because its middle of the pack and that really frustrates us that people enjoy it and deal reasonable dps”.

Some changes were deffo needed like ret pala was trash without the buff. They are where they are supposed to be.

We on the other hand were doing way to much damage. Im glad they changed this it was kinda needed. We will still pump really hard lol no point in overreacting:)

Feral is fine. It was overtuned and now it’s where it should be (higher than it was before it got buffed.

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People that dont understand DKs and warriors are also hybrids who then use hybrid tax as an excuse haha so good.

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